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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: Gzaajhom]
    #14711223 - 07/03/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hrm okay, those are the Texans, labeled "Tx"

Should I toss those jars out? What would have caused the infection?

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14715362 - 07/04/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

so I've moved the jars into a cooler environment and it seems that growth has perked up a bit, I'm thinking inside the cabinet was too warm


do I toss all jars with brown liquid residue or only the really bad one (pictured)?  It looks it could be burst "wbs juice" as well from shaking

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14721032 - 07/05/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I would let it go and see what it does, most likely bacteria but why not just let it finish up. Open the it outside or away from your grow area; depending on the smell Ull know what's going on. I would post a thread in the contam section of the forum as well to get some advice from the guys that hang over that way.

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: don_vedo]
    #14728130 - 07/06/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I pulled three more jars out due to excessive brown colored moisture, they're not dumped yet bu quarantined outside.  However I doubt any will be useable just gonna dump em in a shady spot


I believe the culprit is me shaking the jars (such that moist WBS came in contact with the Tyvek, thus wicking contams) as well as too warm of temperatures 80*F+ outside the cab so inside must've been a few degrees higher


Gonna go and get materials for FC, looks like Ill be working with 7 qts of spawn...

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14728331 - 07/06/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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neuron99 said:
I pulled three more jars out due to excessive brown colored moisture, they're not dumped yet bu quarantined outside.  However I doubt any will be useable just gonna dump em in a shady spot


I believe the culprit is me shaking the jars (such that moist WBS came in contact with the Tyvek, thus wicking contams) as well as too warm of temperatures 80*F+ outside the cab so inside must've been a few degrees higher


Gonna go and get materials for FC, looks like Ill be working with 7 qts of spawn...




Don't get down on yourself, it was probably a combination of the heat and shaking. I find my bags start churning along nicely at about 70-75*F.

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: don_vedo]
    #14736156 - 07/08/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

thanks, this summer heat isn't helping :sun::thumbdown:


unfortunately no pictures, but I spawned 3QTS of Thai Lipa into 2 hybrid shotgun monotubs last night, each one has roughly 1.5 QTS of spawn to about 4 QTS of coir/verm/coffee


have to admit, the transfer of spawn into tubs made me a little nervous of contamination...I did wipe the entire workspace down as well as spray aerosol lysol spray prior to transfer.  made sure to wear latex gloves and cleaned my spoon with ISO.  wish I had a giant cleanroom haha


after transferring spawn, black trash bagged and waiting now :dancer:



also got 4 QTS of Equador finishing up colonizing in jars which I'll make sure to document when I transfer to their tub(s)


all the Texans eventually got quarantined due to infection/contamination

Edited by neuron99 (07/08/11 12:55 PM)

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14736220 - 07/08/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I just harvested my first flushes from my MSGs. They produced a decent amount however I was not to happy with the side pinning I got; I ended up going without a trashbag and taped the sides, the sub shrank really quickly and side pins were almost inevitable. I fruited in my Martha which kept a decent humidity which kept things a little more constant.

One piece of advise I would give to you is make sure you let that sub colonize and then consolidate till you see pins, it will be well worth it. From my experience you will wait regardless if your fruit early or not. Personally I am going to try bulk trays next. I have done monos, now done msg and think I might prefer just normal trays in the Martha.

Keep the updates coming neuron! Good luck brother!

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: don_vedo]
    #14736243 - 07/08/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

thanks for the tip! I don't wanna be a peeker, approximately how many days do you think I should wait? 

I also opted out of trashbagging the inside and just duct taped the bottom 4.5", we'll see how the side pinning turns out.  For the remaining spawn I'll line the inside with bag or foil and see how that works out.


I too want to eventually have trays in a Martha setup, while it has a little more startup cost involved it looks to be quite a stable environment


Still need to make some LC lids and make a batch of LC, I'm a bit wary of contamination, do you guys think it's better to use the remaining MS solution to inoc a grain jar to do a G2G or create a LC solution? IIRC it's very difficult to determine if a LC jar is contaminated or not?

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14737160 - 07/08/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I would wait like 12-15 days before peeking and then after you peek if you still don't have pins put it back and leave to consolidate until pins appear. The mcy will force pins even in colonization after so much time. I believe that was my problem, I fruited to early then when pins did appear they appeared on the best climate avaiable to them; without a trashbag liner and being that the sub pulled away from the sides I ended up with mostly side pins. Grant you I got a great flush but harvest has been a pain in the ass.

Martha with trays definitely seems to be the best available option in my opinion. I have bags colonizing now and will spawn to bulk in trays when they are done and then throw them in my martha. Like I said tubs are just a pain in my ass; and from my experience they aren't as easy as just spawning an then giving them no care till harvest.

If it were me I would make an LC and instead of attempting G2G from all that I have read G2Gs really require a flow hood or at least you attain the best chance of getting no contams with one.

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: don_vedo]
    #14876276 - 08/05/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

looks like the Thai Lipa are almost done colonizing, I did a pretty low ratio of spawn:bulk like near 1:4 but everything looks good.

it's interesting to observe different rates of colonization for the same spawn in different tubs.  one tub is completely covered in white and colonized while the other seems to be a bit more patchy

the Equador was spawned using a 1:1 ratio and is also finishing up (tub was made later than the rest, 7/21)

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14877676 - 08/05/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely post some pics when you start fruiting an seeing pins! Thanks for the update brother, been wondering how this grows been goin.

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: don_vedo]
    #14878433 - 08/05/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

finally got some mushroom related work done today, LC lids are ready to be used:




and built a fruiting chamber for these monotub/shotgun hybrids:


(i love zip ties btw)

















pretty budget setup, lights from IKEA @ $9.99 ea and the shelves at Home Depot for $11, I forget exactly how much drop cloth and zip ties were, but those aren't very expensive

once I get a chance I'll probably neatly secure portions of the drop cloth to the frame, right now I'm feeling lazy and just draped it over

I'm not trying to built a Martha at the moment, just a greenhouse that can hold up the RH for my monotub/shotgun hybrids as RH tends to fluctuate around my house and if anything on the dry end

Edited by neuron99 (08/05/11 07:36 PM)

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14879091 - 08/05/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

these tubs have been colonizing for what seems to be forever, the first two have been colonizing for 28 days, the third one has been colonizing for 15 days. everything was WBS spawn to bulk Coco/Verm/Coffee mixture.  ratio for the first two tubs was about 1:4 and the third tub was 1:1


I'm thinking the first tub is ready to be unbagged and placed in the FC with a wax paper casing?


1.)Thai Lipa #1 (28 days)




2.)Thai Lipa #2 (28 days)




3.)Equador (15 days)


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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14880535 - 08/06/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

bump... should I try fruiting the first tub or wait a bit longer till its more densely covered with growth?

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14880728 - 08/06/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Fruit that first tray, the other two you should definitely wait.

How did you prepare your substrate? What temperatures are those tubs kept around during their spawn run?

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: thatguy0]
    #14881387 - 08/06/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Just in case, as you may not know... Be sure to get a gasket for those plastic LC lids. As they are neither air nor liquid tight without a proper gasket.


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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #14881911 - 08/06/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I was planning on using a wide-band rubberband as a gasket, do you think that will be sufficient?

the spawn were MS syringe inoculated in WBS.  bulk substrate was a coco/verm/coffee mix around 70/20/10.  set to colonize in black garbage bags in temps I would approximate to be low 80's

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14885223 - 08/07/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

That first one looks good to go brother, however you could always wait till it starts showing pins to introduce to fruiting. After this advice was given to me I have found my first flushes to be a lot more prolific.

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: don_vedo]
    #14885437 - 08/07/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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That first one looks good to go brother, however you could always wait till it starts showing pins to introduce to fruiting. After this advice was given to me I have found my first flushes to be a lot more prolific.

Lah'Kesh





awesome :smile: it's basking in CFL light getting misted and covered with crumpled parchment paper

have you noticed the myc pinning even before FAE and light is introduced?


off to PC some honey!

Edited by neuron99 (08/07/11 01:12 PM)

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Re: Neuron's first grow :) [Re: neuron99]
    #14886552 - 08/07/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yah the myc will eventually force pins if left in colonization for a period of time.

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