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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: Legend]
    #14877502 - 08/05/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The plot thickens  :blazed:


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: DeadHearts] * 1
    #14877751 - 08/05/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

When you can use the search function to answer all most any question What’s the point of any new post.
I thought the idea of any forum was for people with similar  interests to communicate and feel part of the community.

Just my view


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: dakgm]
    #14878015 - 08/05/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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dakgm said:
When you can use the search function to answer all most any question What’s the point of any new post.
I thought the idea of any forum was for people with similar  interests to communicate and feel part of the community.

Just my view




Yea but the point is pepler will ask the same questions without consulting the search function first. If someone really can't find the answer then its all good but damn do some research before asking the same easy tided ass cultivation questions.

What's the best strain? What temperatueshould my mushrooms be incubation at? What's the best type of fc? On average how much can I expect to yeild? What's the best tek?

You couldn't possibly understand how annoying it is to see those questions asked multiple times a day.


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14879647 - 08/06/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
There's always an increase in kids out of college for the summer this time of year, and that tends to lower the quality of the board.  Most of those with TC tags are older and work for a living, sometimes long hours.

What does get irritating though is to take the effort and time to type out a well-thought answer to someone's question, and ten minutes later some noob starts a thread to ask the exact same question because he's too lazy to read the threads on the first page or two. 

There seems to be an element that has become used to having people hold their hand so they never have to actually think for themselves.  That laziness gets everyone else pissed off, including the mods and TCs.  That's why you see people encouraged to use the search engine.  Nobody wants to type the same three paragraph answer ten times a day just so the tards have another excuse to stay lazy. :shrug:
RR




Bam.
Nail.... Head.

Just to add to the last paragraph, we live in the entitlement generation.
People just want shit handed to them on a silver platter.
No one wants to research or figure shit out on their own that a 5 second search could yield results for.

I work tech support and deal with these same people all day.
Almost half the people that call have stupid ass questions that could have been answered in 2 seconds with a simple google search or visiting our website.
So they have to call and then force you to stay on the phone with them for 20 minutes to hold their hand
For the simplest fucking procedures imaginable, while 10 other people with real issues are waiting in queue.
I can't stand it and I get paid to do it. TCs don't get paid.


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: Shroomism]
    #14879734 - 08/06/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What is the "cultivation forum"?

Link pleeze!!


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: dakgm] * 1
    #14879853 - 08/06/11 04:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've seen people longwindedly raking newbs over the coals
when an answer to their question would've taken a sentence.

Ignoring them is free.


People just like insulting other people and showing off their
knowledge and power. Also, most won't miss a chance to kiss up to
authority and join in the assault on those deemed weaker.

I see that every time RR shows up.
People falling all over themselves, jockeying for chance to kiss his ass and defend the hierarchy.
Hoping to get some of that mojo rubbed off on them.

It's almost funny... if it wasn't so pathetic.




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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14880004 - 08/06/11 06:25 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Hakim0777 said:
Quote:

dak gm said:
When you can use the search function to answer all most any question What’s the point of any new post.
I thought the idea of any forum was for people with similar  interests to communicate and feel part of the community.

Just my view




Yea but the point is pep ler will ask the same questions without consulting the search function first. If someone really can't find the answer then its all good but damn do some research before asking the same easy tided ass cultivation questions.

What's the best strain? What temperated my mushrooms be incubation at? What's the best type of fc? On average how much can I expect to yield? What's the best tek?

You couldn't possibly understand how annoying it is to see those questions asked multiple times a day.




Don't take my comment the wrong way I spent 8 years telling people the same thing, and mostly the same people I do understand.

When you "know" it's easy when you "don,t" its imposable.

Im a noob but have had great success in the past few weeks and would gladly pass on my method but it's only my opinion.

All starters will ask the same questions I dont think that will change,
if they are discouraged from posting then the forum will demise.

I thought it was a community, some people are just looking for reassurance, I think of it like going into a shop and asking the difference between two products the shop says wot are you doing coming here haven't you done your research. Not the best start to a relationship


Yes there are lazy people and thats modern society where nearly everything comes in a box as a complete item and no user input is required, but that wont change.

Not many members will reach the experance of a TC so most will always be asking stupid questions.


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14880034 - 08/06/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Hakim0777 said:
Quote:

dakgm said:
When you can use the search function to answer all most any question What’s the point of any new post.
I thought the idea of any forum was for people with similar  interests to communicate and feel part of the community.

Just my view




Yea but the point is pepler will ask the same questions without consulting the search function first. If someone really can't find the answer then its all good but damn do some research before asking the same easy tided ass cultivation questions.

What's the best strain? What temperatueshould my mushrooms be incubation at? What's the best type of fc? On average how much can I expect to yeild? What's the best tek?

You couldn't possibly understand how annoying it is to see those questions asked multiple times a day.




i agree that the redundancy is ridiculous. but i can also say from recent experience that simply "using the search function" doesn't always yield the exact results I'm seeking.

when I'm asking cultivation questions it's more out of my need to have an approximate answer to my specific question. the insecurity that comes with your first few grows is something i can fully empathize with.

that said, this site and the people that contribute to it (TC's and all the rest) are amazing. there has never before been more information on the topic of mushroom cultivation centralized into one place. before the shroomery mushroom cultivators were few and far between, and the information was difficult to obtain unless you "knew the right people".

shit, i was just listening to an interview with Dennis McKenna yesterday from the most recent Psychedelic Salon and in it he talks about his own journey into mushroom cultivation and some of his first lab experiments with attempting to grow cubensis.

mushroom cultivation has come a long way in the last 30 years, and we have places like the shroomery to thank for that evolution :mushroom2:


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: gerryjarcia]
    #14880087 - 08/06/11 07:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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gerryjarcia said:
Quote:

Hakim0777 said:
Quote:

dakgm said:
When you can use the search function to answer all most any question What’s the point of any new post.
I thought the idea of any forum was for people with similar  interests to communicate and feel part of the community.

Just my view




Yea but the point is pepler will ask the same questions without consulting the search function first. If someone really can't find the answer then its all good but damn do some research before asking the same easy tided ass cultivation questions.

What's the best strain? What temperatueshould my mushrooms be incubation at? What's the best type of fc? On average how much can I expect to yeild? What's the best tek?

You couldn't possibly understand how annoying it is to see those questions asked multiple times a day.




i agree that the redundancy is ridiculous. but i can also say from recent experience that simply "using the search function" doesn't always yield the exact results I'm seeking.

when I'm asking cultivation questions it's more out of my need to have an approximate answer to my specific question. the insecurity that comes with your first few grows is something i can fully empathize with.

that said, this site and the people that contribute to it (TC's and all the rest) are amazing. there has never before been more information on the topic of mushroom cultivation centralized into one place. before the shroomery mushroom cultivators were few and far between, and the information was difficult to obtain unless you "knew the right people".

shit, i was just listening to an interview with Dennis McKenna yesterday from the most recent Psychedelic Salon and in it he talks about his own journey into mushroom cultivation and some of his first lab experiments with attempting to grow cubensis.

mushroom cultivation has come a long way in the last 30 years, and we have places like the shroomery to thank for that evolution :mushroom2:




Sorry bad grammer (not my best subject) I personally have a nightmare with the search function.
I was trying to say that in theory the search function should answer all the questions.


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: dakgm]
    #14880808 - 08/06/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

One of the issues with the 'using the search' approach is that once a site has developed as extensively as this has and has such a large membership who, as many of you have suggested above, contain many come and go newbs asking the same questions over and over, is that when people make a legitimate attempt to search for some info the results are flooded with many go nowhere, short, bickering, or utse threads.  Type in a common search string and you can get dozens of pages of hits that you need to sift through.

I don't know anything about how this forums is run, how many mods you have, how active they are, but I have some experience with running forums in the past and what I used to do was have the ability to set threads that I felt were not useful, to not be part of the search results.  This could be done in different ways but one easy way was to have a 'archive' forum or some similar folder where you moved threads that were not as useful as others and excluded that section from being referenced to during searches.

The pros are that if you keep up with it you can be left with a much more useful search engine that will bring up quality content.

The cons are that it takes a bit of work (depending on how many people are involved) and it is of course arbitrary and not everyone is going to agree with every decision.

Another approach is to have a rating system where members can rate (thumbs up thumbs down)threads and only threads with a certain rating level are included in the search results.  That opens up a whole new bag of shit though...


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: idlee]
    #14881156 - 08/06/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

[this is a general statement not directed at anyone in particular]

If you dont want to help a noob don't help,


There are some people with knowledge and experience who enjoy helping others learn the joys and wonders of science (and the science of cubes, as simple a science as it is in some regards)  like myself, although I haven't been in the cult. forums much lately

as someone said ignoring them is free, helping them is rewarding in my opinion to know I have helped another human being further their knowledge and understanding in some pursuit of information

I dont hold hands though:bonghit:


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: Pscientist]
    #14881305 - 08/06/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Pscientist said:
[this is a general statement not directed at anyone in particular]

If you dont want to help a noob don't help,


There are some people with knowledge and experience who enjoy helping others learn the joys and wonders of science (and the science of cubes, as simple a science as it is in some regards).... 

.....as someone said ignoring them is free, helping them is rewarding in my opinion to know I have helped another human being further their knowledge and understanding in some pursuit of information






^This^

+5 :mushroom2: for you.


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Re: whats up with the cultivation forum? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14881394 - 08/06/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Bollocks


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