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OfflineMeSaUsA
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Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment.
    #1486876 - 04/23/03 06:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well was reading through the casing teks and I decided on the 60/40 Vermiculite and Coco Coir Casing Tek with a perlite bottom. Any way I was thinking of the best way to sterilize the casing mix and the perlite base. My conclusion is buy some aluminum disposable oven treys with tops. Fill the a trey with perlite and some H20, toss it in the oven @ 170 for a couple hours with the lids sealed on. Same with the casing materials, mix add water, then cook. Perhaps leaving treys in the oven over night to let cool. As for the amount of water used? I was thinking soak the stuff good, after cooking poke small drain holes in the bottom of the treys and collect the juices. By leaving treys in oven while cooling and draining the less likely of contamination. Next morning clean kitchen, pull out treys and fire up oven again bring casing container to oven. After oven is nice and hot open the door put the container in front or on the oven and start casing the container. The hot oven idea is to keep any floating contamins away from sterilized casing materials. Heat rises eh??

Any comments? Think it?s a little over kill?


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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: MeSaUsA]
    #1486983 - 04/23/03 07:17 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

...I'm not sure you'd want to moisten the perlite before sterilising  :confused:

I've always done it dry and added moisture afterwards...?? but then what do I know  :grin: 


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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: MeSaUsA]
    #1486993 - 04/23/03 07:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

damn sounds complicated. Why a perlite bottom? i was under the impression that perlite doesnt really need to be sterilized (or pasturized as your refering to) due the fact that its been heated to a amazinly high temp before packaged, I always sterlize my casing layer by nukin the bitch for 5 then stir then another 5 then again. never had any probs yet.
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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: MeSaUsA]
    #1486999 - 04/23/03 07:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: freestEYEla]
    #1487008 - 04/23/03 07:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Dont use the perlite. Personally I would spawn to dung/compost/straw before adding a casing layer but that might not fit your needs.If you can it will greatly increase your yeilds. The 60/40 works well. Dont go wasting money and time on pans for sterilizing. Get a microwave safe bowl with a loose fitting lid and some seran wrap. Get the moisture content JUST right. Put it in,cover with seran wrap, lysol seran wrap, put on top,nuke for 5 minutes, stir, seran, lysol,put on top, nuke for 5 minutes...Your done and gave $$ Yay!!


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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: MeSaUsA]
    #1487014 - 04/23/03 07:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Think it's a little over kill?




No, not at all... well, maybe a little  :smirk:  but it's better to err on the side of caution.

My friend would just leave out the perlite.   


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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: resin]
    #1487023 - 04/23/03 07:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I've read the tek on the coco coir/verm casing. (roadkills mabey??) Sounds like everyone seems to like it. Can enough be done in one batch for a large rubbermaid?


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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: bigj2]
    #1487032 - 04/23/03 07:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i am using the wet perlite now and it is working and helping with the rh levels..

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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: Robbyrob]
    #1487517 - 04/23/03 11:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

to be exact im doing a dung tek in a rubber made, i used the perlite last time i did this tek, it worked great keeping the right moistuer level. last time i just used verm for the casing layer, but i hate all the lil peices on my big fallen over shrooms
is there any ph balenced pre made casing layers, some thing i could find at a grow store or walmart?


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    #1487576 - 04/23/03 11:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #1487599 - 04/23/03 11:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i thought that coco coir was already sterilized....hmmmm


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Re: Some Thoughts About Casing. Please coment. [Re: bos]
    #1487612 - 04/23/03 11:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Even it it were pre sterilized, once you crack that seal... it's not sterile.
Kinda like urine, it is sterile until you expose it to the air.


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