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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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which religious figure is the toughest?
    #1485214 - 04/23/03 05:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

who do you think is the toughest religious figure of all time:

jesus
mohammed
buddha
laozi
confucius
abraham
arjuna
bab

etc etc etc

I got my money on arjuna, that guy was a bad-ass muthafucka


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485216 - 04/23/03 05:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

what an excellent question! Hmmm.. tough to answer though. Who's arjuna?


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: Dogomush]
    #1485225 - 04/23/03 05:09 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

arjuna is a hindu figure, who is featured in a parable about killing, he is standing on a battlefield, and he asks krishna (hindu god...also bad ass) whether killing a man is good or bad, and krishna says something like, it is not the act that is bad, but the intent. if your intent is pure, then your act will be pure. (paraphrasing), so arjuna goes down to the battlefield and kicks some ass


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485233 - 04/23/03 05:14 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

basically, the story is about the conflict between ones dharma (desiny) and karkma. if a person's dharma is that of a soldier, and killing is a bad thing, then how can they possibly live their lives? the answer is, one must be selfless as they carry out their duty. when killing a soldier, you should not focus on defeating the individual, or the benefits that will arise, but carry out your duty...selflessly....or something like that...my hindu is a little rusty


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485234 - 04/23/03 05:14 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

*karma


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485235 - 04/23/03 05:16 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Does king arthur count? Or is he the toughest politician?

Hmmm.. I'm going to have to go with an immortal here: How about the monkey king? If I remember correctly he ate a peach of immortality and then became immortal and wreaked havoc. Like one time he pulled a plug out of the bottom of the ocean and released the hurricanes. He's Chinese.


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: Dogomush]
    #1485238 - 04/23/03 05:19 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

the monkey king is rad!, hes definitly one of the toughest, ive seen a sweet little statuette monkey king doing some kung-fu


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485239 - 04/23/03 05:20 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Jesus kicks some serious ass. He's a big tough carpenter and beat up and drove all the money changers out of the temple. Then he get the beating that would kill 20 ordinary men and crucified and killed but comes back to life. In revelation he kills so many people there's hardly anyone left.  :shocked:


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1485303 - 04/23/03 07:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

hahah what a funny thread....

I reckon Aries, the Greek God of War, or Hades, or Zeus, or even Poseidon.. All those guys seem pretty "tough" to me..

:tongue:

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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485365 - 04/23/03 09:06 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

basically, the story is about the conflict between ones dharma (desiny) and karkma. if a person's dharma is that of a soldier, and killing is a bad thing, then how can they possibly live their lives? the answer is, one must be selfless as they carry out their duty. when killing a soldier, you should not focus on defeating the individual, or the benefits that will arise, but carry out your duty...selflessly....or something like that...my hindu is a little rusty


i hope one day humanity will stop believing that its ok to kill for ANY reason.


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485584 - 04/23/03 11:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

sure, but which god is sexiest?


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1485888 - 04/23/03 01:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well....
for pure feminine sexuality, prolly aphrodite/venus...
but for out-n-out screaming craziness sexuality, maybe, ummmm eris???
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& for the chicas, well, hermes/mercury has a certain, well, reputation...
& then there's always pan priapus for that marathon ogriastic sorta too-orgasmified-to-sit feeling...
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and ganymede does have his supporters out there in the male gay community...
and as for wimmin from lesbos, well... i dunno if sappho was actually divine, but she was supposed to be quite the divine lover & poetess, from what i hear... (of course, the patristic usurpers destroyed most of her plays and poems...)
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oh, and for the toughtest deity... well, i have always sorta had a grudging respect for odin, who was willing to hang from a tree in order to wrest a kenning from death's own maw... and for his willingness to lead his band of asgard folk (& their mortal allies) into the final battle ragnarok, which is promised to spell destruction for the universe (as we know it...)(and of course his ruggedly handsome offspring, thor odinsson, god of thunder & wielder of the great hammer...
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now, as to whether monkey king, great sage equal of heaven, was actually a god... remember what happened when he met the buddha (& pissed at the base of one of the great pillars at the end of the earth :wink: ...)
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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485903 - 04/23/03 01:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

oh, and arjuna was not a god, but a man (a great king, found in the hindu epic _mahabarata_, some of which is told as _bhagavad gita_) who is fretting over a great battle looming the next day, in which he must kill a bunch of his cousins who are challenging his right to rule... and he seeks counsel from his charioteer, who is also the divine being krishna, an avatar of vishnu... who tells him to do what he must, but dedicate the fruits of his labors to krishna as an act of devotion (bhakti yoga)... which arjuna does, and pretty much sweeps the field the next day, killing kith and kin, dedicating all of the slaughter to lord krishna...
all in all, a fun story, no?
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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: gnrm23]
    #1486330 - 04/23/03 03:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i never said he was a god!

yeah..arjuna is a bad ass motherfucker.

loner: "i hope one day humanity will stop believing that its ok to kill for ANY reason."

an interesting idea, but...why dont you put yourself in Arjuna's position. you dont want to fight, but if you dont, your home will be destroyed, your wife raped, and your family murdered. hmmmmm........well..maybe I'm just another primitive component of "humanity", but I would pick up my sword and fight till the death.

I agree with you of course, but lets be realistic, violence is an aspect of humanity, and it always will be.


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1486341 - 04/23/03 03:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

word up


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1486358 - 04/23/03 03:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with you of course, but lets be realistic, violence is an aspect of humanity, and it always will be.

its an aspect that is a choice... we choose to have countries, we choose to have leaders, we choose to have armies... whats left but to wage war and declare the winner the righteous? this may go on until humanity perishes but its FAR from human nature.


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: ]
    #1486375 - 04/23/03 03:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I have always wondered, is violence an aspect, or a component of human nature? does human nature have fixed characteristics, or is it infinitly malleable? but I think, because of our evolution, violence is a fixed component of our nature...we have needed violence (against human or non human) for a very long time in order to survive. So, it has become engrained in our genetics and it dictates our behaviour.

This doesnt mean it has to result in war, but its there...and its gonna be there for awhile...a long while. it can be controlled and focused...like boxing. but....there is a fixed amount of rescources, an an escalating population...so...somebodies gonna have to die, right?


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1486384 - 04/23/03 04:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I've read that murder is commonplace in hunter gatherer societies. There's a nutty story in Guns Germs and Steel where this band of stone age humans are having a fight as a helicopter lands and a white guy makes contact with them for the first time.


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: Dogomush]
    #1486395 - 04/23/03 04:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Isn't murder just as common in industrialized societies with guns and missiles?


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Re: which religious figure is the toughest? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1486404 - 04/23/03 04:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well I would think yes, which makes me think that maybe the amount of murderers per capita hasn't changed throughout history...


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