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Offlineflow
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1489609 - 04/24/03 01:23 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the tek man, it really clears up a lot of questions i've had.
one that i still have though is...
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The word 'poo' is used interchangably with the 'Miracle Grow for Vegatables'



is the 'Miracle grow for Vegetables' just packaged composted manure?
i ask b/c i'm trying pretty much the same thing, and i couldn't find any fresh poo, so i went out and bought some composted manure from a nearby nursery. Will this stuff work??

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OfflinePooPs
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: flow]
    #1489632 - 04/24/03 01:36 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

BTW.... water content of the grain IS VERY important.... makes the difference between 15 days and 25 days for 100 % colonization.... trust me.. i know !


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: flow]
    #1489731 - 04/24/03 02:08 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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thanks for the tek man, it really clears up a lot of questions i've had. 
one that i still have though is...
Quote:

The word 'poo' is used interchangably with the 'Miracle Grow for Vegatables' 



is the 'Miracle grow for Vegetables' just packaged composted manure? 
i ask b/c i'm trying pretty much the same thing, and i couldn't find any fresh poo, so i went out and bought some composted manure from a nearby nursery.  Will this stuff work?? 




yes that shit works great  :laugh:


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: dr4g0n]
    #1490408 - 04/24/03 05:01 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for sharing that tek.. everything was nice and clear.. great for a newbie..

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: SevHoeSev]
    #1490643 - 04/24/03 06:10 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

yup great tek


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OfflineJameZTheNewbie
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: ziare4082]
    #1490665 - 04/24/03 06:16 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

you forgot the aqurium heater on the supplies list


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OfflineBangvan
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: JameZTheNewbie]
    #1490786 - 04/24/03 06:57 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

f8l I'm using my spent jars because I don't have a PC and don't want to wait an extra month for that part of the tek.

Is miracle grow for vegetables only manure, or is it all that plant food shit? Because I went to a nursery today and bought organic tomato + vegetable plant food which I think is like little chunks of stuff, not sure what. Would that work for this tek? And if I can't find straw, because home depot and the nursery didn't have it, would it still work if I just used that plant food by itself, sort of like using poo by itself?

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Offlinef8L
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: Pantherina]
    #1490910 - 04/24/03 07:39 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Maintain a 160 degree to 180 degree temperature for 1 hour 20 minutes. If you don't have a temperature gauge, simply by adding more boiling water every 20 minutes
you should maintain the temperature.

I think that this is to long for pastuerisation, about half that time would be better (40 minutes) and a thermometer is going to be essential to maintain the correct temprature, otherwise they could easily end up boiling it.





I believe pasturzation is around 1 hour 30 minutes. (correct me if I'm wrong). Yes, I suppose a cheap thermometer is advisable. *noted in new tek*

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Does the water content of your poo and straw matter that much? How wet should it be. Will this directly effect how fast or if the substrate colonizes?



Yes, the water content does matter. In the updated tek I added "if you pick up a handful and squeeze only a few drops of water should come out." <-- This is generally accepted as the 'proper water content'

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is the 'Miracle grow for Vegetables' just packaged composted manure?
i ask b/c i'm trying pretty much the same thing, and i couldn't find any fresh poo, so i went out and bought some composted manure from a nearby nursery. Will this stuff work??




Miracle Grow for Vegatables contains (dont have the bag with me, but offhand..) Organic Poo (from Florida), vermiculite, bark, and a few other ingredients I have forgotten. Using composted manure from a nearby nursery should work well. I have used the "miracle grow" since many people do not have access to poo. But in my opinion, the miracle grow performs just as well.

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you forgot the aqurium heater on the supplies list



*noted*, thanks.

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Is miracle grow for vegetables only manure, or is it all that plant food shit? Because I went to a nursery today and bought organic tomato + vegetable plant food which I think is like little chunks of stuff, not sure what. Would that work for this tek?



No, just follow the tek, dont make any unnecessary substitutions (with the possible exception of replacing the miracle grow with poo taken a farmer.

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And if I can't find straw, because home depot and the nursery didn't have it, would it still work if I just used that plant food by itself, sort of like using poo by itself?



Again, you don't want to modify the tek. And I'm betting this wouldn't work well either. Like I mentioned earlier, you can find pre-cut straw at Michaels and possibly other arts and craft stores.

Please keep the comments coming, this is very useful to providing a clear and concise and ACCURATE tek. Thanks all.

Edited by f8L (04/24/03 07:40 PM)

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Offlinejakeholman
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1491025 - 04/24/03 08:17 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Poops knows what hes talking about, and im backing him up by saying that pasteurization at 170 for only 30 min works just as well. in theory, all you need to do is heat up everything to 170 degrees for a minute and it will be pasteurized. The reason it is kept in longer depends on the thickness and tightness of your dung. the harder it is for the hot water to penetrate the longer it takes.
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1492684 - 04/25/03 10:25 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Is miracle grow for vegetables only manure, or is it all that plant food shit? Because I went to a nursery today and bought organic tomato + vegetable plant food which I think is like little chunks of stuff, not sure what. Would that work for this tek?
No, just follow the tek, dont make any unnecessary substitutions (with the possible exception of replacing the miracle grow with poo taken a farmer.




Well I went to Home Depot and they didn't have "Miracle Grow for Vegetables", just "Miracle Grow for roses" and for plants, not specifically for vegetables so I didn't think they would work as well. I checked the ingredients of nursery vegetable food and they say they have chicken manure and some other stuff, so it's still poo with other organic foods, I think it should still work?

Edited by Bangvan (04/25/03 10:26 AM)

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OfflineBangvan
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: Bangvan]
    #1492704 - 04/25/03 10:31 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

oh and 1 more question, do I need to sterilize the vegetable food, or would it be clean enough?

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Offlinef8L
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: Bangvan]
    #1492936 - 04/25/03 11:34 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)





Well I went to Home Depot and they didn't have "Miracle Grow for Vegetables", just "Miracle Grow for roses" and for plants, not specifically for vegetables so I didn't think they would work as well. I checked the ingredients of nursery vegetable food and they say they have chicken manure and some other stuff, so it's still poo with other organic foods, I think it should still work?



Try looking at Walmart and Lowes (might want to call them first before driving over)... then let me know if you find it so we can clear up where to find it.. I'm pretty sure swim bought it at walmart.

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oh and 1 more question, do I need to sterilize the vegetable food, or would it be clean enough?



STERILIZE DOES NOT EQUAL PASTURIZE. Sterilize means a pressure cooker at high temps... Pasturize means temps around 160-180. Yes, it would be a good idea to pasturize.

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1493143 - 04/25/03 12:33 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Ya I meant pasteurize, and ya I'll do that. The nearest Lowes is like 30 miles away and Walmart is about 20 miles away... I'm too lazy to drive that far so I think I'll just try this nursery stuff I got, maybe its a hidden gem no one's tried before and I'll get great results and share them with you guys.

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: Bangvan]
    #1493234 - 04/25/03 12:57 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Ya I meant pasteurize, and ya I'll do that. The nearest Lowes is like 30 miles away and Walmart is about 20 miles away... I'm too lazy to drive that far so I think I'll just try this nursery stuff I got, maybe its a hidden gem no one's tried before and I'll get great results and share them with you guys.




Everyone's first mistake is to try to "modify" a tek. DONT DO IT. If you are following a tek, follow every single last word, dont modify anything. I would highly suggest not using whatever it is you have.

Edited by f8L (04/25/03 12:58 PM)

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OfflineSMAGE
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1498655 - 04/27/03 07:01 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

yeah try the tek first then try to modify it if you really want to


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Offlinef8L
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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: ziare4082]
    #1500541 - 04/28/03 11:45 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the comments all.. if there are no other comments then I will rewrite the tek and post it in the near future. Do you guys think pictures would help or is the tek best left as a txt file?

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1501641 - 04/28/03 05:48 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

considering i've always just read about the grain jar lid with two holes - 1 being the polyfill filter.. the second being the injection port taped over afterwards.. so yah, my vote is for pictures :-)


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: KafkaPie]
    #1501653 - 04/28/03 05:53 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

huge shrooms with pics for newbies tek.


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: fugu]
    #1504700 - 04/29/03 02:10 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I think it would clear a few things up w/pics

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: lucky420]
    #1520306 - 05/04/03 07:56 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

a picture is worth a thousand words


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