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Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek *DELETED*
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Post deleted by f8L

Reason for deletion: I no longer want this article posted. I have found G-d in my life and want to remove the things of past. Please delete this so I can clear my conscience. Thank you.


Edited by f8L (08/05/04 10:22 PM)

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
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4. When you say that you need twice as much straw as poo does that mean by mass or by volume?
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NOOOO.. You don't need twice as much straw as poo.. It's 50/50! That means 50% Straw and 50% Poo.. (remember: the Poo is actually the 'Miracle Grow for Vegatables')

OK, exactly what is that supposed to mean? Are you suggesting poo is the same as Miracle grow? I always thought it was a nice word for 'shit' but what do I know.


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: distortion]
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i think he means its the substitute for now. Thanks for the tek f8l *bookmakrs it* ...


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: dr4g0n]
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thanks man


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I dont know what your problem is, but I'll bet its hard to pronounce.

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
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1) For this tek we are working with 6 jars.

Get a hammer and nail or drill and put an eraser sized hole in the middle of the lids. Fill this hole with the polyfill. This will allow air exchange and the polyfill prevents harmful bacteria from entering. Put another hole on the inner rim, about 1/4" from the edge, this is where you inject the spores into the jar. Put a piece of electrical tape over the inner rim you have just created. For this experiment we use 6, but you can use more if you choose.





For the second hold, you didn't say how big of a hole... I would read this as make another eraser sized hole.

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
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5) After the pressure cooker has finished, there's no need to open it. Let it cool for 4-5 hours or until the jars are no longer warm to the touch. If the jars are still warm and you inject the spores, the spores might die.




If this is truley a tek for newbies... you may want to tell them to release the pressure before waiting for it to cool... Or they could be waiting a while.

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: Funger]
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Also mention about rinsing and draining the grain after the soak..

also same applies to squeezing the shit out of the poop.. gotta get that water content right!!!


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Pot Free for another : nevermind.. never made it..

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Edited by PJDIDDLE (06/08/10 06:06 PM)

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: PJDIDDLE]
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On step 1 it says:
Get a hammer and nail or drill and put an eraser sized hole in the middle of the lids. Fill this hole with the polyfill. This will allow air exchange and the polyfill prevents harmful bacteria from entering. Put another hole on the inner rim, about 1/4" from the edge, this is where you inject the spores into the jar. Put a piece of electrical tape over the inner rim you have just created. For this experiment we use 6, but you can use more if you choose.

what is the inner rim I have just created, this is confusing to me. Maybe you meant, the hole on the inner rim I've just created.

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
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- 1 Pressure Cooker (big one you need sells for $40 and can hold at least 2 quart jars inside)



A friend used an 8qt PC which he bought for $40 and it is not quite tall enough to hold a single QT jar unless the rack is removed which i dont think is advisable, it MIRRO btw...just a heads up.


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: apuffball]
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sure it's advisable. just stick a folded teatowel on the bottom instead! :grin:


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: shirley knott]
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the jar will still be pressed against the bottom of the PC and the lid will touch the PC cover... DO NOT BLOCK THE VENT PIPE ON THE PC.. and you should have a gap below the jar as well.


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: PooPs]
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DO NOT BLOCK THE VENT PIPE ON THE PC.. and you should have a gap below the jar as well. 


true, true. my mini Argos Tower brand pc (?26) holds 3 'quart' jars - 950g jars from olives, actually - but only without the metal rack. a double folded teatowel, 2 inches of water, and i'm always sure to check the vent sits over a gap between jars. works very well!

do not underestimate the importance of keeping that vent free - ask Moe why! :blush: 


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: shirley knott]
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maybe add a comment like " if your PC is too small to acmodate quarts, use 500ml's, they will do just fine... "

and when you fill your jars.. not more than 2/3 full. leave room to shake them later in the cycle.. as the grain will expand when you PC it.


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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: PooPs]
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4. When you say that you need twice as much straw as poo does that mean by mass or by volume?
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NOOOO.. You don't need twice as much straw as poo.. It's 50/50! That means 50% Straw and 50% Poo.. (remember: the Poo is actually the 'Miracle Grow for Vegatables')

OK, exactly what is that supposed to mean? Are you suggesting poo is the same as Miracle grow? I always thought it was a nice word for 'shit' but what do I know.


The word 'poo' is used interchangably with the 'Miracle Grow for Vegatables' - I'll make sure to make that more clear.

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For the second hold, you didn't say how big of a hole... I would read this as make another eraser sized hole.


Good point, noted.

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If this is truley a tek for newbies... you may want to tell them to release the pressure before waiting for it to cool... Or they could be waiting a while.


I said its a tek for 'newbies' - not 'stupid people who don't know how to read the directions of their pressure cooker'

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Also mention about rinsing and draining the grain after the soak..

also same applies to squeezing the shit out of the poop.. gotta get that water content right!!!


The grain really doesn't need to be rinsed (although yes, it should be drained (ill note that)... Water content isn't really all that important. You squeeze it till no more drops of water come out ;] (noted as well)

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if your PC is too small to acmodate quarts, use 500ml's, they will do just fine... "



Blah. Everyone should use quart jars, so much easier. If your pressure cooker is too small, go to Walmart, buy one huge ass mofo pressure cooker, use it for as long as you need it, then return it. (just a thought)

Any other comments? Keep em coming!






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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
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Pic taken using this method:



More pics to follow.

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
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Thanks for posting the tek f8l, I'm going to attempt it since the shit that I got from a farmer got soaked last night after I left it out to dry and forgot its going to rain.

How big of pieces should the straw be cut into?

If I'm using four 1/2 quart jars (partially spent) instead of 3 quart jars would I still be succesful? I'd just use a couple less layers.

What yield do you expect to get out of this, and does it have numerous flushes or just 1 big one?

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: Bangvan]
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How big of pieces should the straw be cut into?


You can get precut straw from "Michaels" or other art supply stores.

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If I'm using four 1/2 quart jars (partially spent) instead of 3 quart jars would I still be succesful? I'd just use a couple less layers.


I suppose, but why? You are going to get bigger yields with quart jars, more substrate = bigger shrooms



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What yield do you expect to get out of this, and does it have numerous flushes or just 1 big one?


The yield depends. If you are only using a few 1/2 quart jars you probably aren't going to get a big yield. If you follow the tek and use a few quart jars in each rubbermade (I recommend 2 rubbermade containers in case 1 contams), then you will probably get something around 60+ dry grams. Also, most people using this tek usually get a huge first flush and extremely small flushes thereafter.
Good luck.

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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: f8L]
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Maintain a 160 degree to 180 degree temperature for 1 hour 20 minutes. If you don't have a temperature gauge, simply by adding more boiling water every 20 minutes
you should maintain the temperature.

I think that this is to long for pastuerisation, about half that time would be better (40 minutes) and a thermometer is going to be essential to maintain the correct temprature, otherwise they could easily end up boiling it.

Just my thoughts



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Re: Huge Shrooms for Newbies Tek [Re: Pantherina]
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Does the water content of your poo and straw matter that much? How wet should it be. Will this directly effect how fast or if the substrate colonizes?

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