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Canadian Bud
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If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD...
#14836297 - 07/27/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you think if Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD, someone else would have taken his place and discovered this wonderful drug? If so, do you think it would have become popular throughout the world like it is today?
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ComaDivine
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: Canadian Bud]
#14836569 - 07/28/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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i ate one tab almost 2 hours ago and it doesn't seem that strong to me 
i think next time i'll take 2 of this batch
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ComaDivine
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: ComaDivine]
#14836573 - 07/28/11 01:19 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah any chemist can synthesize it, I mean that, the structure is not very complex...
a simple derivation of a natural product (lysergic acid)
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ComaDivine
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: ComaDivine]
#14836576 - 07/28/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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word who else is feelin' the tonight?
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: ComaDivine]
#14836614 - 07/28/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not sure but however it happened worked out for me cause im trippin on 12 tabs right now 
Thank you Dr. Hofmann!
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SeckTor
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: LSDylan]
#14836635 - 07/28/11 01:46 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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djr2150 said: I'm not sure but however it happened worked out for me cause im trippin on 12 tabs right now 
Thank you Dr. Hofmann!
Lucky! Good vibes my friend!
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: SeckTor]
#14836648 - 07/28/11 01:51 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who know? I wonder what would have happened to the psychedelic movement without LSD.
Timothy Leary started by turning everyone on with mushrooms. So it still would have happened. But mushrooms are a lot different, weirder and much less of a party drug. I wonder what the 60s would have been like without LSD.
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: ComaDivine]
#14836652 - 07/28/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wish I was man. No work tomorrow, wouldn't have to worry about getting up in the morning or anything like that, but there's just no supply where I live. It's probably all for the better though, as now I can wait a few more weeks until I get back to school, and that's a better environment for it anyway.
Good vibes to you though ComaDivine, hopefully it kicks in a little bit more for you soon. 
And to the OP, that's an interesting question. I think it would have happened sooner or later, but then again who knows. If it had just been synthesized for the first time say 15 years ago, I wonder if it would have almost immediately been scheduled and become illegal, or would it have gone through the same process of medicinal research that it did in the 40s-60s before it was banned. Interesting thing to think about.
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drr

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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: TheGodParticle]
#14836680 - 07/28/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe Shulgin would have discovered it. He did write TiHKAL after all, and I believe that would have happened with or without LSD, because of psilocybin and DMT. Maybe he would have discovered it in his experimentation - or maybe he would have had no idea where to look.
How many amazing potential psychedelic chemicals do you think there are out there?
LSD is clearly something pretty special.
All of those phenethylamines - many of them are something special but they also are heavy on the body and almost all of them are stimulants. I bet there are more LSDs to be discovered, diamonds in the rough, we haven't even scratched the surface.
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: drr]
#14836687 - 07/28/11 02:09 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I bet there are more LSDs to be discovered, diamonds in the rough, we haven't even scratched the surface.
Yeah maybe 
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: ComaDivine]
#14836804 - 07/28/11 02:45 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
ComaDivine said:
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I bet there are more LSDs to be discovered, diamonds in the rough, we haven't even scratched the surface.
ya years from now when drugs are legalized and scientists can make healthier, better, and safer drugs people will laugh at the ancient LSD
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Macavity224
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#14837214 - 07/28/11 05:08 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have to recommend Hofmann's book, "LSD: My Problem Child." It covers pretty much anything you could want to know about the drug...how he discovered it, what he was trying to do when he discovered it, what it was first used for, when it became banned, etc...plus it has a lot of cool pictures in it too
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: Macavity224]
#14837545 - 07/28/11 07:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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drr said: How many amazing potential psychedelic chemicals do you think there are out there?
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i do wonder if there are some underground chemists making new psychedelics; if you work underground and don't publish your findings there's no law enforcement to schedule them? you could find something better then LSD!
i was reading an article about Alexander Shulgin yesterday. he said, as an analogy, he's invented the wheel, and in the future some kid will make a sportscar
but yes, i do wonder what drug would have become super popular if LSD hadn't...
but equally, i do think that things that are popular, seem to become popular for good reason
LSD is a very pushy drug - it throws you about and makes you come to terms with things. it showed up to humanity in the 1950s. these were very conservative times, people wanted change. liberation was inevitable, and the "pushy" nature of LSD suited this perfectly
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tealeaf
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: aficionados]
#14838514 - 07/28/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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i wouldnt be tripping on L right now
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Theiv
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: tealeaf]
#14838998 - 07/28/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Someone else would have, LSD finds you so it would have happened eventually
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Re: If Albert Hofmann had not synthesized LSD... [Re: Canadian Bud]
#14839285 - 07/28/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe, maybe not, but we'd still have mushrooms either way.
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