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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: sixbluntsdeep] 1
#14830485 - 07/26/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Who are you again?
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sixbluntsdeep
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14830505 - 07/26/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The one who doesn't need basic things laid out in front of me, such as why our monetary system is bullshit.
And who are you?
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14830519 - 07/26/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So classic. You get made to look like a fool and you bring up my "registration date" as though it 1) means something 2) means I'm new
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: sixbluntsdeep]
#14830522 - 07/26/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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sixbluntsdeep said: The one who doesn't need basic things laid out in front of me, such as why our monetary system is bullshit.
Its obvious our monetary system is bullshit. Whats not always obvious is how exactly it works. Sorry Im not a financial know it all like you
Even though you have barely typed out more than a sentence in regards to the subject.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14830529 - 07/26/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow, an opt out insulting somebody because of their registration date...
Honestly deadhearts, and I'm being perfectly serious, your posts rarely contain anything that can be called a rational thought.
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Mind Transcribing said: Wow, an opt out insulting somebody because of their registration date...
Honestly deadhearts, and I'm being perfectly serious, your posts rarely contain anything that can be called a rational thought.
Sorry you feel that way man.
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highdroponics said: Off with the Fed's head. It is the only logical way to end it indefinitely. Otherwise you're not really fixing the problem, just making it less noticeable.
This is all just a bunch of bullshit in all reality. This situation would never happen if our government wasn't so persistent in building an empire around the globe, fighting wars that don't need to be fought, and funding useless programs that do very little good for the people, all the while providing people with a source of income ensuring they will continue the flawed system. Our government is going against every principle our founders fought for it for and people are fighting over mindless shit like this when it doesn't even need to exist.
When will the majority see past the bullshit? It is so incredibly obvious that we are being scammed on a major level.
Im not sure people want to see past the BS. Its gotten them the way of life they are now used to. Its all based on infinite growth.
I'm not as sold on this way of thinking. I understand it's got a lot of draw and following here on the shroomery, but I don't feel like many do here that the system is fundamentally broken. We think its broken because we don't have much to compare it to. Without it, shit falls apart real fast. In a way, that's what tea party republicans are gunning for... breaking the system completely.
The system was never constitutionally meant to be in place to begin with and our founders warned us of these very things happening. Yet people brush it off their shoulders like its a bunch of nonsense. All of that information is completely disregarded as being irrelevant in modern society. People really have no grasp on what the United States are meant to be and why. Everyone is focused on bracing up a system that will inevitably fail.
This country has derailed itself from its original principles entirely. I find it very hard to see and believe so many people wanting more government interference in personal lives, more spending, more war, more government programs/jobs, more taxes. When are we going to fill-in this hole and stop the very same nonsense our founders ran away from to make this country?
-------------------- Dr says to stop trying to treat the side-effects of big government and focus on the core issues. End the Federal Reserve/audit the gold reserves at Fort Knox, abolish the IRS, end all wars and occupancies, stop the building of an empire that will inevitably fail, and cut all unconstitutional federal programs. Put the power back in the peoples' hands by ending this nanny-state.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14830629 - 07/26/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mind Transcribing said: Wow, an opt out insulting somebody because of their registration date...
Honestly deadhearts, and I'm being perfectly serious, your posts rarely contain anything that can be called a rational thought.
Sorry you feel that way man.
"Even though you have barely typed out more than a sentence in regards to the subject. "
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highdroponics said: Off with the Fed's head. It is the only logical way to end it indefinitely. Otherwise you're not really fixing the problem, just making it less noticeable.
This is all just a bunch of bullshit in all reality. This situation would never happen if our government wasn't so persistent in building an empire around the globe, fighting wars that don't need to be fought, and funding useless programs that do very little good for the people, all the while providing people with a source of income ensuring they will continue the flawed system. Our government is going against every principle our founders fought for it for and people are fighting over mindless shit like this when it doesn't even need to exist.
When will the majority see past the bullshit? It is so incredibly obvious that we are being scammed on a major level.
Im not sure people want to see past the BS. Its gotten them the way of life they are now used to. Its all based on infinite growth.
I'm not as sold on this way of thinking. I understand it's got a lot of draw and following here on the shroomery, but I don't feel like many do here that the system is fundamentally broken. We think its broken because we don't have much to compare it to. Without it, shit falls apart real fast. In a way, that's what tea party republicans are gunning for... breaking the system completely.
When you say shit falls apart really fast what do you mean by that?? Like the fundamental aspects of society??
If thats the case Im for it because modern day America is deeply greedy and thinks not of what its "wants" cost the world on the outside looking in.
America is not alone in this but there are so many problems I find it hard to post about.
"The problem in the long term is that an economic model of infinite growth requires the use of natural resources at increasing rates. The most obvious of these natural resources is petroleum or oil. But many other resources like water and coal are being used at increasing rates to sustain growth in population. This growth in population is fueled by the continued increase in use of natural resources. It’s a cycle of infinite growth that is simply unsustainable on a planet of finite resources."
Im trying to look at the big picture.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14830861 - 07/27/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So the government defaulting means that they are just going to decide not to pay any of the money they owe to foreign countries?
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: DeadHearts] 2
#14831466 - 07/27/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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blazenn said: the worst thing i can think of happening in a default is the fact that we could become much more vulnerable to attacks from other countries
Dude WTF?
You serious bro?
dude wtf u serious? another post where you make some sort of exclamation without actually conversing anything??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
when are you going to learn to actually talk, deadhearts?
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: blazenn]
#14831483 - 07/27/11 05:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hope the government defaults. Fuck em. It's ambiguous how much any of this really will effect anything, though I do see a lot of fear mongering from both sides and this leads me to believe that this all is just politics as usual, with a new buzz word.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: blazenn]
#14831541 - 07/27/11 05:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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blazenn said: when are you going to learn to actually talk, deadhearts?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14831780 - 07/27/11 08:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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blazenn said: the worst thing i can think of happening in a default is the fact that we could become much more vulnerable to attacks from other countries
Dude WTF?
You serious bro?
dude wtf u serious? another post where you make some sort of exclamation without actually conversing anything??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
when are you going to learn to actually talk, deadhearts?
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highdroponics said: Off with the Fed's head. It is the only logical way to end it indefinitely. Otherwise you're not really fixing the problem, just making it less noticeable.
This is all just a bunch of bullshit in all reality. This situation would never happen if our government wasn't so persistent in building an empire around the globe, fighting wars that don't need to be fought, and funding useless programs that do very little good for the people, all the while providing people with a source of income ensuring they will continue the flawed system. Our government is going against every principle our founders fought for it for and people are fighting over mindless shit like this when it doesn't even need to exist.
When will the majority see past the bullshit? It is so incredibly obvious that we are being scammed on a major level.
Im not sure people want to see past the BS. Its gotten them the way of life they are now used to. Its all based on infinite growth.
I'm not as sold on this way of thinking. I understand it's got a lot of draw and following here on the shroomery, but I don't feel like many do here that the system is fundamentally broken. We think its broken because we don't have much to compare it to. Without it, shit falls apart real fast. In a way, that's what tea party republicans are gunning for... breaking the system completely.
When you say shit falls apart really fast what do you mean by that?? Like the fundamental aspects of society??
If thats the case Im for it because modern day America is deeply greedy and thinks not of what its "wants" cost the world on the outside looking in.
America is not alone in this but there are so many problems I find it hard to post about.
"The problem in the long term is that an economic model of infinite growth requires the use of natural resources at increasing rates. The most obvious of these natural resources is petroleum or oil. But many other resources like water and coal are being used at increasing rates to sustain growth in population. This growth in population is fueled by the continued increase in use of natural resources. It’s a cycle of infinite growth that is simply unsustainable on a planet of finite resources."
Im trying to look at the big picture.
You guys seem to want an essay with each post I make. Im sorry but if you think defaulting on our debt makes us more vulnerable to terrorism or "attacks" from other countries is well that just doesnt make sense to me at all.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: skatealex2]
#14831916 - 07/27/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They're just going to raise the debt ceiling as they have 74 times since the 60's. This is all just another dog and pony show to keep you distracted.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14833409 - 07/27/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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did you not read the next sentence i wrote?
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but then again nearly every household in america has atleast 1 firearm and if another country was to try and invade us they would have to go through hell to get anything accomplished.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: blazenn]
#14833423 - 07/27/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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blazenn said: did you not read the next sentence i wrote?
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but then again nearly every household in america has atleast 1 firearm and if another country was to try and invade us they would have to go through hell to get anything accomplished.
Yeah I did. You, just like you claim I do only offered a little opinion without explaining why. It doesnt make sense and I was not expecting someone to give this example when on the subject of what could go wrong if we default.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: gzuf]
#14833426 - 07/27/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: They're just going to raise the debt ceiling as they have 74 times since the 60's. This is all just another dog and pony show to keep you distracted.
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I hope the government defaults. Fuck em. It's ambiguous how much any of this really will effect anything, though I do see a lot of fear mongering from both sides and this leads me to believe that this all is just politics as usual, with a new buzz word.
You must not be from the USA. A default/downgrade will send a shock wave through our economy, sending the dollar into the ground and our lives here will be turned into shit.
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Re: Government default - good or bad ? [Re: sixbluntsdeep]
#14833441 - 07/27/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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He is from the USA I believe and I agree with him. This problem is not going to go away and we should just get the show on the road. Our economy will be hurt along with other around the world because the dollar is the reserve currency.
I dont think the world is going to end.....
But with that said its all just a show. They will no doubt raise the debt ceiling once again so we can do this yet again real soon. Awsome.
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