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Don Juan
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: Doc_T]
#14532727 - 05/29/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think this thread has been succesfully hi-jacked
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: Doc_T]
#14533690 - 05/29/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Perlite releases water well, it's ideal for fruiting chambers. there's a post by Roger Rabbit called something like "The difference between perlite and vermiculite". Search engine should find it, and he not only explains it, there's micro-photographs to go along with the explanation.
Thanks!
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I've used vermiculite many times in fruiting chambers as an innert moisture reserviour but never perlite, article sounds interesting shit for us grow nerds
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: GGTBod]
#14534482 - 05/30/11 05:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice one space lord kudos 5 shrooms coming at you for that one
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: GGTBod]
#14534490 - 05/30/11 05:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Excellent article/thread that was my exact understanding fo the difference between the 2 substrate additives
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: GGTBod]
#14564889 - 06/05/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Update: They're wrinkled?
not doing so well, not sure if I've been watering enough.I was slightly confused about how to water them so I think they went up until about 4 or 5 days ago w/ barely any water at all and the spot I had them in gets about 5hrs of direct sunlight and right now it's in the upper 90's most of the day. when I finally watered them fully they seemed to get less wrinkled but not completely w/o, although in the last two days they've gotten more wrinkled from noon to 5, in the heat of the day. are they thirsty or am I totally wrong?
also it might be easier to see the damage on the larger one in it's photo, the inside part has turned a light brown and just looks like a notch in the cactus, is that ok? thanks.
bigger one w/ damage:

smaller one:

*sorry about the iphone photo's
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: airclay]
#14564985 - 06/05/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That cut looks to be healing/healed.
Were these cactus already rooted when you received them? I was under the influence they were not, since you had used rooting powder.
They look thirsty,especially the 2nd picture.
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airclay
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they were sent in a box w/ rooting powder. I'm just worried about it being wrinkled. also when I pull a little on the larger one it seems more stuck than the smaller one. would it be helpful or hurtful to pop 'em up and check the bottom? maybe a pic of?
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: airclay]
#14565138 - 06/05/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So they were not rooted when you received them? Sorry I am just confused by your explanation.
I am asking because they do not consume that much water while they are rooting but once they become rooted they consume a lot more water. I just cant see how the 2nd one has gotten so shrunken in 7 days without it having roots.
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airclay
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I don't think they were showing any roots when I got them, they seem to just be cuttings with a blue powder on the bottom,. There were no little white guys growing out that I noticed. I put them in the soil mixture, i think 9 days ago. It's only been watered correctly once about 3 days ago, and just a small bit today.
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: airclay]
#14565184 - 06/05/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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there's no way I'm less nurturing than a desert.
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: airclay]
#14565250 - 06/05/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I can say that the 2nd picture looks like it needs water. Instead of watering it with small amounts of water frequently, try completely saturating the soil with water and then letting it dry out completely before watering again.
Maybe someone else will chime in soon with some additional advice/info.
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Check if they have roots. You do this by gently lifting them to see if they pull out of the soil. If they have roots, then soak that soil. Otherwise, you'd better move them out of the sun.
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: Cactii]
#14565507 - 06/05/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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aNeway2sayHooray said: Well I can say that the 2nd picture looks like it needs water. Instead of watering it with small amounts of water frequently, try completely saturating the soil with water and then letting it dry out completely before watering again.
Maybe someone else will chime in soon with some additional advice/info.
That's how I watered it most recently, the top 1/2 inch was dry the next day, under that just slightly moist not damp.
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Cactii said: Check if they have roots. You do this by gently lifting them to see if they pull out of the soil. If they have roots, then soak that soil. Otherwise, you'd better move them out of the sun.
The bigger guy seemed a little stuck so I didn't pull on him, the smaller one pulled right out gently, and it def has little maybe 2mm white fingers coming out. so I soaked it til it drained and have found a more shaded spot for them. thanks, hopefully they shape up soon.
what would they look like over watered?
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Re: Peruvian Pups [Re: airclay]
#14565587 - 06/05/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Overwatering can look similar to looking thirsty if they start to rot from overwatering. Thats why you need to check for roots. But it's easier to bring a cactus back to life from underwatering than overwatering.
I liked your comment about not being less nurturing than a desert. 
But actually about half the time that people fail with their plants is when they over-nurture, and give them too much attention.
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Re: Peruvian Pups Updated 6/26/11 [Re: airclay]
#14674533 - 06/26/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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**UPDATE** 06/26/11
Doing really well, today was the first time I've watered in 10 days. They seem to look healthy, to me, and are definitely showing growth.
My only question now is that they seem to lean towards the evening sun so I keep rotating them every couple days in hopes they'll stay standing straight up. Good idea, bad idea, does it really matter?




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Re: Peruvian Pups Updated 6/26/11 [Re: airclay]
#14676664 - 06/26/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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in the wild the plant never turns. never does the sun.
place in a spot with partly cloudy and mostly sunny.
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Re: Peruvian Pups Updated 6/26/11 [Re: ferrel_human]
#14817350 - 07/24/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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so I've been watering every 10/14 days when they look thinner, and I've used half doses of schultz cactus food, but they aren't growing round any more they've gone to points, is this regular?

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Re: Peruvian Pups Updated 6/26/11 [Re: airclay]
#14817441 - 07/24/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, they're growing! Assuming of course they're the same ones in the other pics, they grow upward first, then outward, not up as a large mass.
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