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DieCommie

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Re: BitTorrent: What the fuck? [Re: Jeebies]
#14800356 - 07/20/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I do not download or upload massive amounts of data for shits and grins.
I do.
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Re: BitTorrent: What the fuck? [Re: snoot]
#14800571 - 07/20/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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snoot said: I've gotten a few notices after using demonoid, so I avoid that for most things. There are actually quite a few awesome private trackers, and like everyone else said; usenet/private trackers/VPN services/peerblocker etc... Notices dont really mean much, the worst they will do is suspend your service for a minute, but they will be very reluctant to permanently ban you or sue you. Just be careful, avoid public nonsense.
those notices are warnings, for continued repeat offenders who continue to get 4 of those a week/month eventually some other measure will be taken.
I read an article not 2 long ago where obama/congress w/e was writting out guidelines over this very issue. "rehab" was one of the things on the list a class that you pay for and have to attend regarding pirating and why its bad. There was 4 other measures on the list as well, however disconnecting your ISP was specifically left off the list. I think thats because some places were starting to say broadband is now considered a... dang whats the word im looking for, basic human right or something along those lines. Truth however is disconnecting people from the internet permently would be huge damage to the economy.
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Re: BitTorrent: What the fuck? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14801883 - 07/21/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've had so many US Customs seizure letters it isn't funny, but I'd take those DMCA/whatever-the-fuck they're called letters pretty seriously.
Doesn't anyone in a swarm get your MAC address as well as your IP? So if you already got busted it wouldn't matter if you go to Starbucks or a cyber cafe(if they exist still)?
I know the cool thing about P2P is that it's free, but it's really worth it to try usenet as Seuss said. I took his advice and haven't looked back. At the start it can be a bit daunting to learn how to find some stuff, but there are plenty of web articles out there about it. The user base for usenet is different than that of P2P as well, and you can find some really obscure stuff. I've never pirated music because I like to support bands I like, and most of the movies I've purchased from usenet I bought in the past(over 200 DVD's stolen from my locker in the Navy).
Like I said before, I use Giganews because I don't mind paying $17 for 50 connections, unlimited bandwidth, SSL, and a VPN. It's even cheaper than that at a lot of other places.
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> Doesn't anyone in a swarm get your MAC address as well as your IP?
No. MAC addresses are layer 2 (data link layer) where IP is layer 3 (network layer).
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Re: BitTorrent: What the fuck? [Re: Seuss]
#14827836 - 07/26/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Theoretical question, if u own something in one format, ie fallout new vegas on xbox, is it wrong to download it in another format, ie fallout new vegas for pc?
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Re: BitTorrent: What the fuck? [Re: Admon420]
#14829493 - 07/26/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes, because they charge for both, also they are wrote completely different altho usually ported so it doesn't take much effort from them still it costs them extra money. And if your wondering if that would work as an excuss in court, no.
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Re: BitTorrent: What the fuck? [Re: Jeebies]
#14856524 - 08/01/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's sad how people can't understand that because value was traditionally based on scarcity, and any digital products cannot inherently have scarcity, they have no immediate material value. As we move forward the purchases will be made in good faith by the capable, businesses who are held to lawful agreement, and to access convenient use of features such as membership in systems such as Blizzard's Battle Net.
EA, I believe has specifically mentioned they will not be suing people, but rather designing their video games with features that make playing without a purchase a lesser experience- probably servers on their end with registered accounts that can be controlled.
So, while there will always be ways for digital products to remain marketable those methods will not be the same as any physical product. The digital revolution thing is still in it's adolescence, and it's just now beginning to fully impact how we exchange media. I find the life -crippling punishments for copyright and IP law infraction disgusting, as this was not historically the original intent of these laws. Meanwhile, draconian laws are being combined with impunity for content holders that is indefinitely stunting the public domain. See Disney. In essence, big corporate America is assuming the right to own culture itself.
Movies, for example will always remain profitable in a theaters, music performance will always draw a concert crowd. I can already hear the top 40 on the radio by turn of a dial in every room in my house- and I would unlikely be sued for taping that broadcast. Yet that action would unlikely receive the acidic response from those who believe in IP law as would torrenting that same information. Similar story for recording my favorite movies in HD when they're played on TV. So there's some cognitive dissonance there.
Regardless of what you believe about right and wrong, copying data cannot be stopped. Instead of focusing on how to obscenely punish a select few average people who are probably also consumers and also spend money on media when they can anyway, it would be smarter to think-tank new ways to turn a profit legitimately in parallel with the copying. Look at Netflix, Pandora, Live365, Steam etc.
The MPAA and RIAA in particular seem to be dying in a litigious shitstorm. They no longer have a central necessity, and so they've fallen on victimizing a few people out of millions that represent a cultural trend for-profit.
In many cases, they force you to "settle" out of court, essentially blackmailing you for any amount of money they desire- if you resit they can use convolution of the definition of "a work violated" and the insane penalties to essentially doom you to a life in debt to them. A CD is 13 violations, etc. That's not a punishment befitting the crime.
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