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Ayrios
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Dunking popcorn or rye?
#3170331 - 09/23/04 02:23 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hrm I would think these would just fall apart and not really cake like BRF and verm. I'd like to dunk my popcorn or rye half-pints before casing though. Will this work? If the cakes fall into several pieces, is it still okay to dunk?
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Citric
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Post deleted by Anno [Re: Ayrios]
#3170342 - 09/23/04 02:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Ayrios
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Ayrios]
#3170359 - 09/23/04 02:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am casing them.
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george castanza
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Citric]
#3170373 - 09/23/04 02:32 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Domey said: Case them instead. Whole grains are best fruited being cased/spawned.
kramers wbs/verm cakes always fruit nicley in a pmp
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Citric
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-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Ayrios
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Citric]
#3170393 - 09/23/04 02:37 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay, anyway, back to my question.
How do you dunk whole grains?
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Citric
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Post deleted by Anno [Re: Ayrios]
#3170410 - 09/23/04 02:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Ayrios
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Citric]
#3170434 - 09/23/04 02:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm just going by what hypaea's pinning guide says. Maybe he'll speak up about it.
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george castanza
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Ayrios]
#3170580 - 09/23/04 03:36 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ayrios said: I'm just going by what hypaea's pinning guide says. Maybe he'll speak up about it.
can't go wrong with that
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Ayrios
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Bump so maybe he'll check this thread...
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scatmanrav
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Ayrios]
#3172425 - 09/23/04 09:33 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can dunk them before casing them sure. I dont dunk before first flush though. I dunk the entire casing and it floats just like a cake. They stay together just the same (maybe a little less but basically). When I harvest I pick up the whole casing and it holds its shape. I would just case straight though if I were you. That stratagy is excellent though, I follow it and flushes increased greatly
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Ayrios
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: scatmanrav]
#3172627 - 09/23/04 10:06 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm, I'm not sure if I could lift the casing out :/ Even with a bottom layer of 50/50+ it'd hold together?
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Citric
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Post deleted by Anno [Re: Ayrios]
#3172661 - 09/23/04 10:13 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Citric]
#3172728 - 09/23/04 10:24 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hes right about how to dunk and flip, thats how I work it. It holds the top layer fine so I'd assume bottom would hold. I try not to pick it up to much, just to pick shroms on bottoms/sides. Then dunk in container and flip and drain after the cold dunk for 24 hours. Maybe its needed, maybe not but my casings shrink about an inch all the way around every flush. And I get enormous second and beyond flushes compared to first so I continue to dunk. Maybe I'll try some without and see how they work out.
Either way, myc holds everything together pretty damn well. Even if you break it apart it will attach back together and to everything quite well..
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Ayrios
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: scatmanrav]
#3172783 - 09/23/04 10:33 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great, thanks to both of you.
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hyphae
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Ayrios]
#3175165 - 09/24/04 01:34 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have never dunked casings except if they were made from BRF cakes then I simply dunked the cakes and crumbled. Grains have always worked beautifully without a dunk. I always keep my casings at "near saturation" up to the pinset which I leave it alone during that time as the casing has optimal moisture to carry it through the pinning stage, once pins are set I continue with light mistings a bring the casings moisture back up to optimal ("near saturation") slowly over a period of several light mistings over the course of a couple of days. As far as the colonized substrate holding together the myc should hold it pretty damn good but you want to break it up anyway into nickel sized chunks for a perfectly level substrate in your casing container. GL Ayrios
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: hyphae]
#3175266 - 09/24/04 01:54 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Perhaps I should try not dunking, maybe that cold dunk is the reason I come up with new pins for flushes after the first in 3-5 days usually? I'll have to do some testing
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Ayrios
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: hyphae]
#3176596 - 09/24/04 07:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great, thanks. Misting will be fun with my new professional pump sprayer. I've already misted my dog 5 times today :P
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Mykro_Guy
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Citric]
#3176803 - 09/24/04 09:01 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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im a big fan of dunking my popcorn or brf casings after my first flush. just fill up my container with water place lid on top to keep it from floating up as to keep the submerged ...6 hours or so...works great
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Re: Dunking popcorn or rye? [Re: Mykro_Guy]
#14792679 - 07/19/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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do you just pour off the water in the end? do you need to worry that your grain is oversaturated with water?
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