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Icelander
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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

[Re: Muffinman1552]
#14778240 - 07/16/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well don't forget to go through every thread ever posted here. :thumbup:

:thumbup:

:braindamage:

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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14779725 - 07/16/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
aren't all those questions about life & existence etc dependent of that persons vision of reality? and that every idea the person thinks about & seeks answers to are available only in the world view of his/her views to reality.

what i mean is, the question represents the person himself, his views and experiences in life. that there is very little that is objective when it comes to existential questions because all those questions are very personal.

am i right, or am i deluded?

i agree that the more existentially important an issue is, the more personally and intensely you will experience it

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nonduality

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

[Re: g00ru]
#14779772 - 07/16/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You are not separate from reality!

'reality and your relationship to it'

How can you have a relationship with what you are?

'experiencing reality directly'

You can experience reality indirectly?

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Muffinman1552
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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

[Re: Icelander]
#14782256 - 07/17/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

b]Icelander said:
Well don't forget to go through every thread ever posted here. :thumbup:

:thumbup:

:braindamage:

I may do that.
I may just Learn or Present a Valuable Lesson in Just the right place.

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Muffinman1552
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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14782277 - 07/17/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

nonduality said:
You are not separate from reality!

'reality and your relationship to it'

How can you have a relationship with what you are?

'experiencing reality directly'

You can experience reality indirectly?

This is True
We are All Drops in the Ocean.
However, Each Specific Water Molecule is Singular
To Dismiss/Deny either fact is Fallacy.

You are experiencing reality "directly" through your eyes (which sees everything upside-down), Processed in your brain (which flips the image) and then Labelled and categorized in your neural pathways.
So when you experience "Reality" you are experiencing the product of something that has been filtered and Categorized by your brain.
It is no longer the Raw Objective
It has become the Filtered Subjective

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14782958 - 07/17/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Muffinman1552 said:
b]Icelander said:
Well don't forget to go through every thread ever posted here.

I may do that.
I may just Learn or Present a Valuable Lesson in Just the right place.

Well you're going to learn a shit load cause I'm all over in those old threads. At least you'll be learning from a Master. :satansmoking:

:satansmoking:

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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Muffinman1552
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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14783191 - 07/17/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

Muffinman1552 said:
b]Icelander said:
Well don't forget to go through every thread ever posted here.

I may do that.
I may just Learn or Present a Valuable Lesson in Just the right place.

Well you're going to learn a shit load cause I'm all over in those old threads. At least you'll be learning from a Master. :satansmoking:

:satansmoking:

Alright, Lucem Ferre :flyingpig:

:flyingpig:

Let me show you the light.
Because I see none in your words.

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14783242 - 07/17/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:rofldrunk:

:popcorn:

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14783399 - 07/17/11 08:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Muffinman1552 said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

Muffinman1552 said:
b]Icelander said:
Well don't forget to go through every thread ever posted here.

I may do that.
I may just Learn or Present a Valuable Lesson in Just the right place.

Well you're going to learn a shit load cause I'm all over in those old threads. At least you'll be learning from a Master.

Alright, Lucem Ferre :flyingpig:

:flyingpig:

Let me show you the light.
Because I see none in your words.

There are none so blind as those who will not see. :satansmoking:

:satansmoking:

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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Muffinman1552
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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14783499 - 07/17/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

Muffinman1552 said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

Muffinman1552 said:
b]Icelander said:
Well don't forget to go through every thread ever posted here.

I may do that.
I may just Learn or Present a Valuable Lesson in Just the right place.

Well you're going to learn a shit load cause I'm all over in those old threads. At least you'll be learning from a Master.

Alright, Lucem Ferre
Let me show you the light.
Because I see none in your words.

There are none so blind as those who will not see. :satansmoking:

:satansmoking:

Thats cute, did you get it out of a crackerjack box?
Is that what you post on all your threads?
Stolen quotes and Axioms from books like The Bible?
Do you have any light in your own thoughts?
Or are they all empty reflections of full ideas?
There are none so Annoying as The Mockingbird.
(excuse me,[sincerely] because I am sounding more aggressive than I Really Intend, and we are Way Off Subject)
:stopflaming:

:stopflaming:

:drama:

:offtopic:

Edited by Muffinman1552 (07/17/11 09:03 PM)

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14783506 - 07/17/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:satansmoking:

is good at bringing out the :devil:

:devil:

in you

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14783664 - 07/17/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Kickle said:
is good at bringing out the in you

Theres a lighted concept.
Someone started a Fire.
:hellfire:

:hellfire:

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14785151 - 07/18/11 06:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

(excuse me,[sincerely] because I am sounding more aggressive than I Really Intend, and we are Way Off Subject)

It's normal to get aggressive when one feels threatened.

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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14785190 - 07/18/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

OP is right.

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14785469 - 07/18/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We agree.

:heart:

:lol:

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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14785652 - 07/18/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

individual thought patterns are a part of the collective thought fractal so i am pretty smart i guess

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14785781 - 07/18/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What is a collective thought fractal?

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14785802 - 07/18/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thoughts take on a fractal form, as is quite obvious to anybody who knows anything about their own mind. And there's a collective one of those, as is obvious to anyone who knows anything about where ideas come from.

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14785823 - 07/18/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

guruu said:
thoughts take on a fractal form, as is quite obvious to anybody who knows anything about their own mind. And there's a collective one of those, as is obvious to anyone who knows anything about where ideas come from.

What evidence do you have that thoughts take on a fractal form? What evidence do you have that there is a collective one?

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Re: every philosophical & spiritual question a person has

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#14785839 - 07/18/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

He thinks he's god so he ass umes he knows everything. :monkeydance:

:monkeydance:

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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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