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so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone
#14760270 - 07/12/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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he called up at&t, and they walked him through resetting his password, which ended up being the same exact password as the last one he was using. he still couldn't get on, so I went to the firewall settings, and just put to allow all traffic. I didn't tell him I did this, but he has had no trouble accessing the modem since then, and it's working fast as ever. So maybe now anyone within range of the modem will be able to use it. so what?
it was a pain, and them walking him through something that didn't fix it didn't help at all.
what is the worst that will come of this? if I buy a router and connect it will it add security or is that phoey info, will nothing change at all?
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: imachavel]
#14760455 - 07/13/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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no, if you are using no data encryption, then anyone within range of your wireless router would be able to access it. if you're disabling your firewall in its entirety, your network is now at much greater risk of being hacked by anyone on the internet.
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14760539 - 07/13/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well fuck. why did this password malfunction have to occur anyway? well, he can get on I guess, I suppose I can reset the firewall settings to max, I just hope this doesn't really effect anything important.
how great is ssl anyway? I mean it's pretty standard, but then what's so bad about it, it's pretty standard. sometimes with computers, generic is a good thing. oh sorry, the firewall isn't disabled, I don't know how to do that. I just made all applications allowable. that's what I meant to say. I think having some applications being not allowable was what kept prompting the password when he used his phone. are there harmful applications, or is an iphone solid with that?? Thanks
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Edited by imachavel (07/13/11 01:08 AM)
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: imachavel]
#14760605 - 07/13/11 01:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you're allowing all incoming traffic, you're pretty much disabling your firewall. the security a firewall provides is the ability to block certain types of internet traffic from entering your network. internet traffic moves through a firewall based on service-identification numbers that are referred to as ports. ideally, you'd open a minimal set of network ports, allowing the traffic for approved applications to enter and leave the network while blocking other network traffic.
to use the iphone application(s) that are producing these errors, port forward needs to be enabled on the ports that the app uses.
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14760748 - 07/13/11 03:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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so how do I know which apps are causing the password prompt. how do I port forward certain apps while still basically blocking everything else?
I know it's easier then it sounds. here is a print screen of all ports allowed, obviously basic ones, ftp smtp http, 21-25 and all really necessary ones(guess I'll have to make a new post, won't let me edit upload an image)
Edited by imachavel (07/13/11 03:19 AM)
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: imachavel]
#14760779 - 07/13/11 03:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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hope you can view that. anyway that give you an idea? I'm sure the files going in and out aren't what caused the password failure on the 2wire. but still these things are such a pain in the ass, I'd just like the packets going in and out to flow a little easier, if it keeps blocking EVERYTHING it's going to keep prompting my dad for a password on his iphone, the more it prompts that the more bugs occur. I know these things just fail sometimes, we've already replaced one 2wire modem.
anyway I know I'm going about all this really weird, the firewall has nothing to do with the 2wire failing, but the less decisions that 2wire has to make, the better I feel. it already does a shitload of crap anyway, and I just don't want any more errors then what already exists.
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: imachavel]
#14760806 - 07/13/11 03:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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gave you the wrong image, here is the right one:
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: imachavel]
#14760823 - 07/13/11 03:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well, the OP was kind of ambiguous, are you saying that you're going into the iphone's settings and going to wifi and choosing your network, and it's prompting you for a passphrase... and when you enter it, it rejects it?
if this is the case, i don't really understand how allowing all incoming traffic in your firewall is fixing this problem. though different wlan cards within devices can be particular about what encryption is used, try going into 2wire gateway's settings and switch to WPA2 or what have you.
however, if your iphone is connecting to your wifi without problems, but some other application is unable to connect... say facetime or an instant messenger or whatever isn't able to connect, and just continually prompts you for your password, this is where it makes sense to me that you'd need to forward ports for that application..
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14761789 - 07/13/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those 2Wire gateways suck major ass. Aside from them being wireless-G, the admin page is pretty shitty as well. I can tell you with certainty you don't want to allow anyone on the network(no authentication/WEP = bad) because of them being able to do whatever on your IP, and AT&T cap bandwidth now so chances are all the neighbors use that shit too and someone would definitely leech bandwidth/pirate shit from his network.
I wouldn't immediately think it's the 2Wire though. Two months ago I upgraded my iOS on my iPhone while preserving the baseband and the fucker wouldn't connect to my router after that(also jailbroken). I had no clue what the hell caused it. Tried rebooting multiple times, restoring, clearing network cache, and for whatever reason my dumbass didn't reset my router. For whatever reason it was the router and not the iPhone. Maybe try to unplug the 2Wire for a minute and then plug it back in. Use WPA2-PSK AES encryption if possible... can't remember if that gateway can do it.
This is completely off-topic, but if he has the $ and someone that can do it, he should put that POS in bridge mode and get a better router that is N, maybe dual-band if he has hardware that uses 5GHz, and a router that has a wider band in the 2.x GHz range. I got TimeWarner wideband the day they released it on my street, and I'm surrounded by people with U-Verse. When I set up my router and checked out what shit looked like on inSSIDer all I saw were 2Wires broadcasting all over the entire spectrum stepping all over each other. I set mine up on the best channel for 40MHz based off the signal strength of the other routers, with channel switching disabled since the 2Wires do it because people don't mess with their settings, and put a repeater with the same function on the other side of my house and when I look at inSSIDer now I see all the 2Wires on top of each other.
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
#14762856 - 07/13/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah but you jailbroke it, doesn't that kind of change it? yes, you are right, allowing all traffic isn't going to help anything at all. the 2wire just sucks. I just don't want it prompting my dad anymore because he gets on my case every time this happens. the fact is the 2wire and his just don't click well sometimes, and I wanted to make it smooth as possible. I know nothing about 2wires or iphones btw. Anyway, weren't you in the last paragraph referring me to a signal issue? it's for sure not that. sorry about your problems after jail breaking the iphone, i guess you'd have to get back into the settings and mess with it again a little bit. it's def a 2wire issue though, as cosmic joke was saying, he went through a tech walkthrough on the phone with at&t, reset the password, and nothing changed. I guess he'll have no choice but to just call them up again, oh well, better then me trying to configure the 2wire like it's a home router, and letting every dip shit checking their email on their android logging in and slowing down our internet. or reconfiguring it so viruses can pour in faster then I can scan for them on malware bytes.
anyway, another thing to take note of, probably doesn't make sense I'd want to know this for this issue. none the less, anyone good with an iphone? when I checked my dads iphone for his i.p. address, it didn't list it in the bootp section, switching it to dhcp didn't help either, but why would it? i was just playing around with the settings didn't think it would. if his iphone is connected I can run a netstat in the command prompt and see his i.p. address right? but w/e how does that help if he gets a password there is signal, like I was saying no need to buy a repeater or anything like that.
anyway thanks for the help people, great stuff. really appreciate it, I'll get my dad back on the phone with at&t very soon.

and yeah suess, you are probably right, if I ordered a wireless router and set it up the problem would probably be solved. Thanks
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Edited by imachavel (07/13/11 02:20 PM)
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: imachavel]
#14764770 - 07/13/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah I'm just going to do that, buy him a cisco router. can I get him one for $20?
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: imachavel]
#14772084 - 07/15/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you try to reboot the router? Jailbreaking the phone didn't have anything to do with my problem because I restored it. Something was saved in the router for the phone that wasn't allowing it to connect so after rebooting the router that fixed it and I wasted a shit-ton of time.
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
#14773312 - 07/15/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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how do I reboot the router? does it have something to do with ipconfig release renew. no that's a host command. is it dns flush? no that just renews the dns.
sorry I forgot a lot of networking commands, but for this task I need to log onto the 2wire, do you know how to do it? btw to save you some trouble, I did order a router, and am going to set it up when it arrives, will this remove all the problems? thanks for the help, I know you don't have to sit here and answer these monotouness questions all day. but w/e, I'll look it up if you point me to the right link, save you some trouble. appreciate it
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Re: so my dad couldn't get on to the at&t 2wire with his iphone [Re: imachavel]
#14774475 - 07/15/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just unplug it and let it sit for 30-60 seconds and plug it back in.
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