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WhiteBunny
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Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth?
#4781573 - 10/10/05 09:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I shot up my standard PF jars and with the Lipa Yai and had the first signs of growth on the three day. Now fast forward to over six weeks later and they are still not 100% colonized, some are around 92%-98%ish and not really getting any further. I would like them to be 100% but then again I want to fruit these bad boys. What do you guys think. I will post pictures of the jars also to help your opinion. Thanks WB Jar A - Looks like she's done but Bottom could be better
 If you look you can see some white through the bottom but I don't know if it's sporadic growth or full growth because it's not rhiz growth right the bottom left hand of this picture
 Jar B
 This one is opposite, the bottom looks really good but the top isn't colonized as high up the jar as I would like, but I don't know f that is because of the dry verm layer. Take a look here is the bottom and the the side
 This picture isn't that good but it is completely colonized up to the dark part at the top of the jar
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Edited by WhiteBunny (10/10/05 09:40 AM)
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Tien
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: WhiteBunny]
#4781586 - 10/10/05 09:42 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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You might have a bacteria bloom going on in there.. Do they smell weird at all? I think you should restart, if you birth...the uncolonized spots are for sure going to get contaminated.
Next time keep your jars at 76-82 F
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Edited by Plutonium (10/10/05 09:43 AM)
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WhiteBunny
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: Tien]
#4781596 - 10/10/05 09:46 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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my jars have been kept at 80 - 84 degree and the hole don't have anything over them and don't smell at all. I don't think it's bact because chance would be low that every jar just about how it
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Tien
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: WhiteBunny]
#4781622 - 10/10/05 09:53 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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WhiteBunny said: my jars have been kept at 80 - 84 degree and the hole don't have anything over them and don't smell at all. I don't think it's bact because chance would be low that every jar just about how it
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..well bacteria is the only explanation I can give you. If it's not bacteria, then go ahead and tell me what wrong with those jars...
I've never done half pints...or PF cakes, but I think the time frame for those jars is about 1 to 2 weeks before full colonization. So unless your moisture level is fucked, it's bacteria.
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thenewguy05
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: WhiteBunny]
#4781631 - 10/10/05 09:54 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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you could have dried the mix a little in the sterilization process. the way i look at it you might as well at least try to fruit them, if they get contaminated you at least gave it a go. i've had some cakes that were only 95% colonized that gave a flush and then contaminated before the second even had a chance to grow. good luck.
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: Tien]
#4781640 - 10/10/05 09:56 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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might be the light...but that doesn't look too good either.

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WhiteBunny
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: Tien]
#4781818 - 10/10/05 10:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just looked and that spot is verm stuck in between the glass and mycelium. Well, I took out only two of the batch and cut off a little part that is uncolonized and they are dunking and cold shocking now. I will keep updated if it is working out or not.
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: WhiteBunny]
#4783310 - 10/10/05 04:02 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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You shouldn't have any trouble just cutting off uncolonized parts and fruiting normally. I've done it several times on cakes that just wouldn't finish up. Just be somewhat sterile when you do it, i.e. don't use a peanut butter encrusted butter knife to cut off the uncolonized parts. Just cut the undone parts off as best you can, dunk them, fruit them and be on your merry way. No worries there.
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: Fungus_Farmer]
#4783340 - 10/10/05 04:09 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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whitebunny~ same thing happened with my cakes. I decided to fruit 3 of them and leave the uncolonized part on. The other ones, i left in the dark to finish. Ill let you know what happens with mine.
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WhiteBunny
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: Rab15bit]
#4783363 - 10/10/05 04:14 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I remember invitro fruit right? Keep posted how they come along with pics.
p.s -Thanks Fungus farmer
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: WhiteBunny]
#4783370 - 10/10/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea. haha. posted some new pics earlier w/ the help!-update thread. Ill post more tomorrow.
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#4783403 - 10/10/05 04:26 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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FLLEWISFL
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: finding_self]
#4783458 - 10/10/05 04:38 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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So his jar's disposition is the hault of further growth/slow of mycelium? If thats the case and NO visible signs of contams, and for argument sakes was keep in sterile/ideal temperatures, that meaning its a "possible bacteria" that stopped the growth? Also, when he cuts off the portions that didnt colonize what type of method of cutting should he do? Btw I ask these questions for my jars are in a similar situation as his (I think), but mine are pretty much ALL fully white but not as thick as I have seen of mycelium capacitize to, then again im not sure (<---first timer). Ill post pics in another posting w/ this previous posting. Thanks.
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Re: Long colinization time, should I go ahead and birth? [Re: FLLEWISFL]
#14755678 - 07/12/11 07:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Personally theyres not point in cutting theyre done start over. Ive only smelt through the holes once bacteria has got a good visable hold on substrate. If you have suspicion sterilize a room as you were injecting take the tin foil and smell. If it smells like mushrooms its possibly a ratio problem water? I thought i could cut colinized parts out, before my first sucessful grow never turned out well. Always contamed cobweb the greanie mean.
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