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some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please.
    #14746645 - 07/10/11 04:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Wednesday the 13th will be 2 weeks since noc. Here is how some look now.

The tub. (that is a fish tank heater that you see. keeps it about 72-74 degrees)


Best jar so far. Side 1.


Again without flash, same side and jar.
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Same jar, side 2.


This one is weird. The jars were noc'ed through 2 holes, each one is directly across from each other so I dont know how it ended up like this.


Same jar, side 2. The verm on top slipped down the side a little so thats why it looks like that.


So not even 2 weeks in, only noc'ed 2 holes instead of 4 and using rye flour instead of BRF. What ya guys think?


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: jamisoncrzy]
    #14746677 - 07/10/11 04:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty sure you need to Pressure cook with Rye Flour, did you do that or boil them? And it looks like you may have some contams but I'm no expert Noccing up 2 holes in the long run can hurt you. It needs the 4 to fully colonize in most cases :shrug:


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14746683 - 07/10/11 04:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Oh and take the foil off and any tape over the holes to allow Gas exchange :thumbup:


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14746697 - 07/10/11 04:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah they we PC'd. I dont really see why the other 2 holes are needed for full colonization. They should grow right through. I mean whats the difference between 2 or 4 holes noc'ed? Maybe it will be a little slower.
Also with another one going on but with quart sized jars and glad containers colonized just fine with 2 holes instead of 4.

And Im not sure if I want to take off the foil and risk getting contams. So far there are no contams, I know the pic kind of makes it look like it, I dont know why though.


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: jamisoncrzy]
    #14746705 - 07/10/11 04:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

And also im thinking about waiting for it to colonize and then mixing it with Coir and going a little more bulk with it. Would that work?


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: jamisoncrzy]
    #14746714 - 07/10/11 05:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Umm, did you use a Verm barrier on top of your Substrate? if so then your fine to take off the foil and tape.. You need to allow gas exchange, or it may stall in my Opinion. Watch the RR Video link in my Signature it explains the 4 holes I'm pretty sure. How many CC's did you use per jar? You need at least 1 for best results.


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14746727 - 07/10/11 05:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah theres a layer of verm on top but thats not 100% protection.
And yes at least 1cc per jar.


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: jamisoncrzy]
    #14746732 - 07/10/11 05:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ok guy :thumbup: keep the foil then after all you know best and dint ask for Advice or an Opinion of others with some grows under there belt. I take the foil off and tape right after inoculation and haven't had one contam.


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14746785 - 07/10/11 05:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

There is no tape, but 2 layers of tyvek under the lids and 1 layer of foil on top. Ive never removed the foil with the 1 first grow and it worked out good with only 2 contaminated jars so I just dont see the need for it I guess. Contams hurt my feelings =P so I just dont want to risk it. I could give it a try though.

And back to the 2 holes noc'ed instead of 4 what how could it hurt them? Because it seems like as long as the food is there they will grow through no problem, maybe just a little slower. But I dont know so I would like some info on that.

And could I just rise the foil a little instead of removing it?


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: jamisoncrzy]
    #14746866 - 07/10/11 05:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

How are you getting contams if your PC'ing them? How long are you doing it for and what pressure. I think you need to use the Search bar my friend there are plenty of Trusted cultivators that will tell you to remove the Foil and to make 4 holes. Watch the Videos and RR himself will tell you to do so.


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #14746882 - 07/10/11 05:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I dont know how I got contams before, it was right before they were done also. And I PC them for 60 min and 15 psi and dont even start the timer until the pc is at 15 psi.


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: jamisoncrzy]
    #14749835 - 07/11/11 06:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Still looking for some more info about only noccing 2 holes instead of 4.
Anyone?


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Re: some pics of 2nd grow using PF tek with rye flour. opinions and advice please. [Re: jamisoncrzy]
    #14749987 - 07/11/11 07:28 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It will just take longer with 2 holes. Not sure why anyone would just use two, as your end result will come quicker with 4. Also, with only two holes, two layers of tyvek and the foil you are almost suffocating them, which will also slow things down.  :shrug:

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