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Re: WBS prep. Any tried method under 28 hours? [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #14760523 - 07/13/11 01:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

When you rinse before the boil, you rinse off some of the gypsum, which is on the exterior of the grains.

You rinse before the soak, then dump the soak water or just boil in it.

I boil in the soak water to save on water


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Re: WBS prep. Any tried method under 28 hours? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14760536 - 07/13/11 01:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

True, you should probably rinse before soaking if at all. I find no need to.


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Re: WBS prep. Any tried method under 28 hours? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14760540 - 07/13/11 01:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I think there is a big margin of error when it comes to water content and jar preps in general. I'm sure a jar with perfect water content will possibly grow a day or 2 faster from start to finish compared to a nearly perfect. I think as long as pooling isnt excessive on the bottom and the WBS started to expand some as a result of hydration then growth should be fine. This is speeking from my experience with WBS only as i don't work with rye.

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When you rinse before the boil, you rinse off some of the gypsum, which is on the exterior of the grains.

You rinse before the soak, then dump the soak water or just boil in it.

I boil in the soak water to save on water



I didn't get into gypsum yet. I used it a while ago but only from smashed up dry wall and the work didn't seem worth the trouble. I have carpal tunnel so the smashing stuff is a lot for me.

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Re: WBS prep. Any tried method under 28 hours? [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #14760554 - 07/13/11 01:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I love the soak because I add coffee (balancing pH using hydrated lime)

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Re: WBS prep. Any tried method under 28 hours? [Re: dmonkey1]
    #14762408 - 07/13/11 12:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I begin WBS with a rinse with tap water until the water comes back MOSTLY clear.  This usually takes about 3-4 rinses with the WBS mix that I use. 

Once WBS is rinsed, I begin the soak with the hottest water I can draw from my tap and add agricultural grade, powdered gypsum at 2% by volume of dry grains.

Beginning the soak with the hottest water possible prevents grains from germinating during the soak.  The addition of gypsum makes available, to the mushroom myce., calcium and sulfur, as well as, preventing clumping in the grains after they've been sterilized.

I only soak my WBS for 4-8 hours.  I'm a firm believer that a shorter soak time can be used when you opt to couple the soak with a 10 minute flash-boil.  Try not to exceed a 10 minutes when boiling WBS (set a timer to keep track of exactly 10 minutes once water reaches 200-205F).  The point of the boil step is to get that proper surface hydration level rapidly, by use of evaporation. 

After the boil, I load the freshly cooked WBS into col lenders and place them on a counter top, stirring them with a large spoon every 15 minutes, with a large fan set to medium blowing over the WBS. 

The time WBS takes to dry is going to be different from cultivator to cultivator.  This is largely due to your personal region's climate and temperature. 

Using the method described above, I'm able to achieve properly hydrated grains (to be loaded in jars or bags , tweeking drying time depending on whether or not I'm innocing. with a dry (G2G, agar wedge) inoculant or, a liquid one (spore syringe or LC)), with in 1 and a half to 3 hours.  That's at an ambient room temp. and humidity of 60F and 27% humidity.

Science project!;  Bring some water to a boil in a small pot.  Once the water is boiling, dump it out in the sink, hold the pot upside down over the sink, and observe what happens to the remaining water, inside the pot.  IT'LL RAPIDLY EVAPORATE AWAY IN MERE SECONDS.  That's the effect the boil step provides for grain preparation.  The trick with WBS specifically, is to not apply TOO much heat to the TINY grain that you begin to excrete the starches from the grain or worse, burst them.

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