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Need advice on PF colonizing jars!
    #14741013 - 07/09/11 01:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys i nocced my jars up on june 4th and its now the 9th. I believe the mycellium has grown very slow since the start and i heated the jars to 100F by accident for 14 hours. But I have noticed the mycellium survived and has still been growing, just gradually slower. I need advice on what to do with these jars? its been over a month now that they have been colonizing. After I heated the jars they were past 50-60% so i flipped them and the mycellium took off the week after.

1. Cut off uncolonized portions, dunk and roll, birth into SGFC?
2. Wait and prey the mycellium keeps colonizing the jars to 100%
3. Your advice

Here are pics of each jar specifically showing 2 pics from the side and 1 on the bottom.

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Jar 4
The bottom of this jar hasn't even started colonizing yet. even after i flipped it.




Thanks for your advice peeps!:thumbup:


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #14741023 - 07/09/11 01:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You said June 4th and now it's the 9th, did you mean July? Or they've been colonizing for a month and 5 days? If it's just been 5 days, let them sit, the process takes a few weeks, my friend.


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #14741186 - 07/09/11 02:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Jar 4
The bottom of this jar hasn't even started colonizing yet. even after i flipped it.





cuz ur using the wrong size of jars.


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: k00laid]
    #14741196 - 07/09/11 02:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yea those jars take longer to colonize, so be patient unless growth has completely stalled. If it's just going slow, you should wait.


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: BaSSidio Head]
    #14741221 - 07/09/11 02:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No. I nocced them up june 4th. Its now July 9th. Its been over a month.


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: BaSSidio Head]
    #14741222 - 07/09/11 02:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

when i used those type jars.

i never got them to fully colonize

i tried to fruit them anyways.

it sucked dick.


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: k00laid]
    #14741364 - 07/09/11 03:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

use your jars to spawn a sub of your choice (i.e. coir/verm)


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: Smirnoff]
    #14741601 - 07/09/11 03:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I need more information on spawning and what all it consists of, can i get some linkz? I have vermiculite can i spawn with that


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #14741666 - 07/09/11 04:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Go out and buy coir its really cheep

Here's a really useful link! Damion's 5050 Coir Tek


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: Smirnoff] * 1
    #14741853 - 07/09/11 05:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Takes a long time for pints to colonize. Flip them upside down and give it some more time. They'll finish eventually.

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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14741894 - 07/09/11 05:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Takes a long time for pints to colonize.




hes more than 4 weeks in bro.


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: k00laid]
    #14741961 - 07/09/11 05:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Takes a long time for pints to colonize.




hes more than 4 weeks in bro.





Ive had mine take 3 months to finish up. One of the reasons I dont use Pints for PF tek anymore. Shit takes a ridiculous long time to colonize.

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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14741966 - 07/09/11 05:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

holy shit, i had attempted to fruit, failed, and tossed mine long before that

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    #14742063 - 07/09/11 05:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Eventually they did work out. Averaged about 4 decent flushes each. But not something I would do again. The time and frustration involved were too much. Especially since I've learned to do grain, makes things much easier, and much faster.

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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14745207 - 07/10/11 12:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Well update and good news only one day after this post xD when you can notice the mycellium has taken more hold on the cake after only a night on the shelf thats a good thing. All 4 jars are 90%+, one jar i would say is 98%. Only a small dimesized portion of the cake left to colonize. How long would I be safe to consolidate the jars after 100%? and when fruiting in SFGC i have a 6500k CFL light, 12/12 off and on right? How soon should I expect pins after dunk/roll/birthing into the chamber?


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #14745239 - 07/10/11 12:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Wait 7-10 days after fully colonized. But if you see pins starting while its still in the jar then just go ahead and birth. 12/12 light/dark is correct. Every grow is different so no clue when you will see pins. Generally it's within a week of when you introduce fruiting conditions.


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: Wing]
    #14746602 - 07/10/11 04:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

After each flush of mushrooms i just dunk again for 24 hours and roll/birth right? how many flushes should i expect and whats the average yield each cake has dry/fresh?


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: new2shroomzz]
    #14746619 - 07/10/11 04:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Dunk only. Don't roll again. Rolling again has the potential to increase the contamination risk.

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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14746662 - 07/10/11 04:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You can also add about 5% of peroxide to your water your dunking in to help with potential contams. I think using distilled water would be better too.


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Re: Need advice on PF colonizing jars! [Re: jamisoncrzy]
    #14746712 - 07/10/11 05:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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You can also add about 5% of peroxide to your water your dunking in to help with potential contams. I think using distilled water would be better too.





No, don't do this, there is only one contamination that peroxide kills, and that is cobweb mold. Beyond that you will just be damaging the mycelium. The only protection from contamination is sterile technique.

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