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stressbegone
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First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect???
#14736363 - 07/08/11 01:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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The cakes with no pins were birthed a few days after the other 8 and I did not put as much verm on top after the dunk and roll. The myc seems a little matted down on some cakes and there are blue spots here and there. Any ideas or suggestions?
Im still misting 1 or two times a day and fan all the time and after misting fan pretty heavy.
There are also pins that are growing under the cake through the shop wire. Should I do anything about this now? There is only about a 1/2 to an inch between the wire and the perlite. One of the pins under is already touching the perlite. Is this going to be a huge problem for the pins?
Also after I harvest what is the recommended amount of days to let dry out before re-dunking? If any, and should I not roll after the second dunk and just do the double end case with the verm?
Please give me some feed back, comments, ideas, opinions, ect! Those pins took 9 or 10 days to start, im very exited. The ones with pins are amazonian and the ones without pins are mazatapecas.
The shoe box in the other sgfc is two amazonian 1/2 pints spawned to manure which are starting to poke through the casing pretty evenly. Should I stop misting the casing?
Thanks again everyone, I could not have done any of this without all of you and RR's DVD. This place rocks!!!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14736383 - 07/08/11 01:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14736538 - 07/08/11 02:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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unless you put some foil under your cakes.
i bet theyll start to grow through the screen into the perlite.
other than that great job dude
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: k00laid]
#14736773 - 07/08/11 03:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah the cake is directly on the screen so there already poked through the screen. If I were to put foil under them now would it cause the pins to abort or would they stay there for the next flush? Seems like the cake would crush em a little. Would they rot if that happened? Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14737619 - 07/08/11 06:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anyone else?
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14739421 - 07/09/11 02:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok. So I just say "bump"??? Still learning guys. You were in my position one point in time. I love you all for the knowledge you have taught me. Maybe in a few weeks I will have a better post. Thanks anyways!!!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14739527 - 07/09/11 03:10 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You need more verm on top of some of those cakes. This will help them start to pin. I don't dry out between flushes. The cake will do that on it's own. I dunk and roll between flushes. GL..
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: tracingBigTime]
#14739585 - 07/09/11 03:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, stop misting the casing. Don't want aborts :p
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: Immortal Corrupter]
#14740117 - 07/09/11 09:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Immortal Corrupter said: Yeah, stop misting the casing. Don't want aborts :p
what?
i mist from birth to harvest.
water does not cause aborts.
standing water with a lack of FAE causes aborts.
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: k00laid]
#14740168 - 07/09/11 09:33 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some of the pins on the bottom will abort on the foil, others will just lift the cake up as they grow out to one side.
Nice looking chamber & pins.
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: grainbrain]
#14740498 - 07/09/11 11:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice and replies everyone!!!
Yeah the ones on the right of the chamber didn't get as much verm on top. I thought I was overdoing it with the ones on the left so I chilled out with verm on the other ones. I guess I wasn't over doing it though.
When I dunk after this flush I think I'm just going to but lots of verm on the top and bottom. (DEC) Those ones on the right are blueing a little bit too.
Either way I'm glad to see some action and not totally eff up my first grow. Thanks again everyone!!!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14742136 - 07/09/11 06:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I should clarify, a properly saturated casing doesn't need to be misted DURING pinning, you can do more harm than good. I follow Hyphae's advice on casing.
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: Immortal Corrupter]
#14742160 - 07/09/11 06:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Immortal Corrupter said: I should clarify, a properly saturated casing doesn't need to be misted DURING pinning
cool, sure.
but these here are cakes.
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: k00laid]
#14742421 - 07/09/11 07:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I put some moist veena under and ontop of those cakes on the right. Hopefully it helps. The hoop casing in the other sgfc is where I'm following hyphae's pinning strategy. Also, when I put that veena on the cakes I might have covered up some tiny pins. You think they will make it?
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14742472 - 07/09/11 07:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, I was never talking about the cakes man, I was replying to his casing in the other chamber.
Well how much did you cover em up by?
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: Immortal Corrupter]
#14742835 - 07/09/11 09:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't cover the pins up to crazy. I'll take some pics when i get home from work in about 40 min. I would like you to see them.
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14743195 - 07/09/11 11:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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here they are now when i got home tonight about a half hour ago.     I did the DEC earlier today on the cakes that were turning blue. Hopefully that helps a ton, there's pins here and there on a few of them. I tried to get some closeups of the pins. I tried not to put any verm on any noticeable pins. For the last pic I tried to get a shot of how some of the pins are growing under the cake and through the wire. Ive decided not to put foil under those since they're already pinning and just let them go to see what happens. Sorry the pic is so blurry, its from outside the FC. If you look hard enough you can see what I mean though. Thanks again for the replies everyone!!!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14743308 - 07/09/11 11:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Very nice!!! As for the pins growing under the wire, Just wait until they are mature then pick like normal
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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14743386 - 07/10/11 12:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank-you! I'm glad to hear that. Do you think it was a bad Idea to put the moist verm on and under the cakes that didn't pin right away? The ones I DEC have been in there about 7 or 8 days now, maybe 9. Those cakes were also birthed 3 or 4 days after the other ones, i just didnt put as much verm on top and the myc to over on top as well. Im just experimenting. Thanks again for the reply!!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14743432 - 07/10/11 12:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just as advice for future grows, birth as many jars together as possible. I'll wait an extra 1-3 weeks just to birth jars at the same time.
As for the verm on the cakes, I always roll and put a pile of verm on top my cakes. Helps keep moisture in so I can fan a lot more. You want to beable to fan 4-6 times a day without drying the cakes out and only having to mist 2-3 times.
As for when and how to apply verm, You are ok for adding verm during all stages of growth as it's just to add moisture to the substrate. However, next time, use DRY verm, then lightly mist the verm to capacity. At least thats how I do it 
Best luck and groovy vibes bro!
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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!
I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14743495 - 07/10/11 12:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks good to me since your last update. Next time try some logs
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14743503 - 07/10/11 12:42 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: Just as advice for future grows, birth as many jars together as possible. I'll wait an extra 1-3 weeks just to birth jars at the same time.
 -SHP
Good to know, thank-you again. I was just worried that they would pin inside the jars. I know that's ok, I just wanted to do it right after the week of consolidation was over. That saves a lot of work doing it your way. Ive got alot of action with quart grains, pint grain for grain LC, building a GB soon for G2G and a shit tone of hpoo to play with. Also bought a 4tier and 12 5in deep restaurant bus tubs. It's gonna be a great time and Im very excited and cant wait. I might ease on the cakes for now if everything goes as planned. Im more than fortunate to have some results. It's been a great learning exp! I think the main thing I need to work on is my patience as I am considered very inpatient.
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: jamisoncrzy]
#14743518 - 07/10/11 12:44 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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jamisoncrzy said: Looks good to me since your last update. Next time try some logs 
Will do on the logs. I was wondering about those. I just wasn't sure if that was the right place to post this. I did searches and saw other peoples under the cultivation topic. Then again I didn't search any of the logs. Good to know, thank-you!!!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14743563 - 07/10/11 12:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hate using GB, I do open air g2g in my bathroom. Just spray oust, clean with alcohol, and work fast. Not a single grain contam yet!! I also do my agar open air also like that, lmao!!! (not saying I suggest trying that tho)
And you'll love the poo man, no joke!!! I went from needing to eat 15-30 fruits to equal a gram, to fruits that are 2-5 grams dry by themselves!!! (check my F+ grow in my sig, you'll see the size differences at the bottom)
Coir works ok, but I love shit!!!
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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!
I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14743636 - 07/10/11 01:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes!!! Thats what I like to hear, I love it. The hpoo is so easy to get too! I've only spawned cakes so far to it. I have two going right now. One with the 50/50 casing on it. (first post on this thread) and one on the spawn run right now which is almost done. My quart jars will be ready soon enough. I'll give the open air G2G a try if you say so. My bathroom is super tiny too. I do have to clean the hell out of it first though, then oust. Hasn't had a real deep clean in a while. You keep the master jar open the whole time right. Do you also loosen all the lids first or loosen one at a time. I'm all about skiping the GB. I did all my quart rye grains in open air with silicon injection ports and one 1/4 in hole in the center covered with tyvek for GE. Go some micropore tape in yesterday though......Sorry, I could talk about this stuff all night. I love my new hobby. Thankyou!
Holy shit on the F+ (literally) lol. I cant wait man, you have no idea. (although you prolly do! )
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: jamisoncrzy]
#14743643 - 07/10/11 01:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Look up "Boris's Bulk treys 360 pinset"
You kinda did it already, so might as well go all the way lol
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: Immortal Corrupter]
#14743683 - 07/10/11 01:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Immortal Corrupter said: Look up "Boris's Bulk treys 360 pinset"
You kinda did it already, so might as well go all the way lol
I dont know if this is what you are talking about http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12472757#12472757 If so I have came across this before, Its pretty crazy. Kinda like one huge cake......I think. I read it a couple of weeks ago. If this is not what you're talking about do you have a link? This does seem pretty basic and ez to follow though. I just dont get why to mix straw when the hpoo has tones of straw already in it? Maybe a dumb thought on my part. Im still learning...........but fast!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14743753 - 07/10/11 01:50 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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With my g2g, I unscrew the lids on all my new jars, I take the ring you screw on off, but leave the lid. I replace the lid quickly in between each jar and work fast with both hands. Like i said, I'm not recommending you try it just because it works for me, I'd hate to see someone get contams due to that.
I also use a surgical mask and gloves, dosed in iso alc and have the b-room door shut. It turns into a sweat box, but it works
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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!
I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14743788 - 07/10/11 02:10 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: With my g2g, I unscrew the lids on all my new jars, I take the ring you screw on off, but leave the lid. I replace the lid quickly in between each jar and work fast with both hands. Like i said, I'm not recommending you try it just because it works for me, I'd hate to see someone get contams due to that.
I also use a surgical mask and gloves, dosed in iso alc and have the b-room door shut. It turns into a sweat box, but it works 
 I'm ready! I'll just try one master jar first and see what happen. If that fails then I will continue on with the GB. Do you spray the shit out of the oust each time between each jar you open? That bathroom is fricking small. Its the only thing I hate about this place. I know what you mean by sweating though, especially in those masks. If I get all contams my first try.......Don't worry, I wont blame it on you. I know it's not recommended. Oh yeah, I have tyvek coveralls as well. (forgot to include that in the pic).
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: stressbegone]
#14743827 - 07/10/11 02:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I spray the air and the entire sink (where I keep my jars/bags etc) with oust. Then just get to work.
If I'm taking longer, I cover up what i'm working on, then respray, then go back to working. I can just kinda feel the air when I need to respray I guess.
Normally I'm just wearing shorts, hair pulled back in pony tail and using face mask/gloves. I always have a paper towel soaked in iso for cleaning as I go.
If I'm just knocking up some jars with ms syringe or LC syringe, I only use gloves, spray the air once, flame sterilize needle before and after sucking up LC, and sitting the syringe in a folded paper towel soaked in ISO inbetween jars etc.
Hopefully that makes sense to explain how my process works. I know that i'm lax on these procedures, but it works perfectly for me as I've even done successful agar to LC in open air like this as well! As for regular agar work, I'd still suggest using a GB, otherwise you're just asking for trouble, lol!!
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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!
I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: slapphappypill]
#14743882 - 07/10/11 03:04 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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good stuff, I feel confident on the G2G. As for agar I have not read anything on that topic. Im a little intimidated by it. It seems like a whole other world in this hobby. One day I will try it. As for now the only thing I know or think about when I hear agar is myc and p-tree dishes. I've only started this hobby about a month and a half ago and before then knew nothing. I feel im taking big steps in it.
Thankyou for your procedure info on how you do the open air G2G though. Def. going to give it a try.
As for that cake with the bigger fruits. The veils already broke and I just harvested and set them on the box fan for tonight while I finally get some sleep. .......Tomorrow's shoping list: desiccant/ and or damprid, scale, and a very good time with a excellent mind set/ setting. (it's been over a year since I've had fun with the fungi) Thanks again man, sleep time it is!!!
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: Immortal Corrupter]
#14743891 - 07/10/11 03:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yup, that's the one. Well I've seen poo that doesn't have straw in it, so that may be a reason. Either way ya can't argue with his results. Which is why I'm totally buying a greenhouse eventually.
I'm not that experienced either, but we all gotta start somewhere...even if its reading posts for like 3months straights :p
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Re: First Grow. Finally got some pins. (pics) Any ideas, ect??? [Re: Immortal Corrupter]
#14743926 - 07/10/11 03:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't realize you were referring to my bulk sub I was using :-P haha!!! I smoke just the right amount of green to be perma baked I think...
As for the substrate, I just cleaned out a 30 year old horse stall. Used the sawdust/poo that I got from it and ran! I think I'm gonna try to sift out the poo and use straight poo for a tub or 2 to see how that goes for me
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze....
FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!
I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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