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insutama
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Pasturizeing verm/coir
#14735978 - 07/08/11 12:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just wondering if i would pasterize my verm/coir the same as i would my casing mix ?
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k00laid
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: insutama]
#14735998 - 07/08/11 12:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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pasteurization is getting a substrate to ~160 for 1 hour at least.
how you go about this doesn't matter.
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insutama
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: k00laid]
#14740450 - 07/09/11 11:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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okay i do have to pasterize the coir/verm not just pc it for 45 minutes right ?
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: insutama]
#14740466 - 07/09/11 11:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bucket Tek man.
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insutama
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: Toofpaste]
#14740603 - 07/09/11 11:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was thinking of doin RR method in a pc
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M11
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: insutama]
#14740651 - 07/09/11 11:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Search Damion's Elementary Coir Tek.
Easiest method to get vast quantities of bulk substrate.
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: M11]
#14740676 - 07/09/11 11:58 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Theres a difference between pasteurization and sterilization,you don't want to sterilize your substrate which is what you'll do if you PC it look up the many pasteurization teks and see which one fits your needs with what you have to work with
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M11
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I have sterilized substrates before. I just used some small Glad Ware containers with injection ports. I directly injected LC into the sterilized substrate. Everything colonized just fine. It is important to note that the sterilized substrate was never exposed at any time until full colonization had been achieved.
In general, you want to pasteurize, not sterilize, but it does have its occasional purpose.
-------------------- Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter. Just pretend it's christmas.
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Those mushrooms are fine. Your friend is a pussy.
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: M11]
#14740749 - 07/09/11 12:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
M11 said: I have sterilized substrates before. I just used some small Glad Ware containers with injection ports. I directly injected LC into the sterilized substrate. Everything colonized just fine. It is important to note that the sterilized substrate was never exposed at any time until full colonization had been achieved.
In general, you want to pasteurize, not sterilize, but it does have its occasional purpose.
You can sterilize substrate but its more prone to bacterial contamination thats why pasteurization is recommended,a pasteurized substrate has benificial microbes which aid in the fight of bacterial attacks,sterilization kills these good microbes
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stonesun
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Why you guys bring sterilization in the picture? OP never mentioned sterilization. He asked if he could pasteurize bulk with the same method as RR pasteurizing casing in his videos. The answer is yes. That's a great way to properly pasteurize your substrate.
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M11
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Sterilized substrates are more prone to bacterial contamination IF they are exposed; otherwise, sterile is sterile. Pasteurized substrates are much more capable of resistant contaminants when exposed, which is often the case with monotubs, trays, MSGs, etc.
-------------------- Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter. Just pretend it's christmas.
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Those mushrooms are fine. Your friend is a pussy.
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: M11]
#14740868 - 07/09/11 12:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I brought it in because he mentioned PCing and I just wanted to clarify that there is a difference just so he was informed
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stonesun
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OK, I see now.
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insutama
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: stonesun]
#14741949 - 07/09/11 05:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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There was a post awhile back were RR said fill up pint jars with substraite and put in pc with weight off let steam come out for 5 minutes then turn off burner and let sit till cool and he mentioned that would keep the temps perfect not getting too hot
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Re: Pasturizeing verm/coir [Re: insutama]
#14742143 - 07/09/11 06:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yup thats a form of pasteurization try it if it sounds like it will work for you
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insutama
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awsome thanks guys
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