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unknown species how to proceed
    #14734813 - 07/08/11 04:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have taken a clone off an active mushroom that grows in my area.
It looks like a cube but grows in wood, so must not be. I'm hoping its an Azurescens. They are a lot stronger than cubes and smaller.
ID isn't why I'm here. I don't have any pics so wont happen.

I was just wandering how I should treat this when its ready to fruit. I have just spawned to grow bag tonight and I'm waiting for it to colonize. When it does, should I case? should I cold shock? Should I let over colonize in bag. Not sure as I have only just started on gourmet mushrooms and can't look up fruiting of a mushroom I don't know what it is?
Any suggestions would be most appreciated

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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: dr0384]
    #14734856 - 07/08/11 05:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

if you think it may be an azure, treat it like one. if you are not sure treat it like a cubie.
what have you gotta loose?

its like having a pet and not being sure what it is. is it a dog? is it a fish? is it a parrot?

and then deciding to feed it dog food just in case!:goodluck:

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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: dr0384]
    #14735156 - 07/08/11 07:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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dr0384 said:
I'm hoping its an Azurescens. They are a lot stronger than cubes and smaller.




I doubt.
You probably found some Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
Should really have taken some pictures for ID just to be sure though...
Since it's a woodlover, you have to spawn it to woodchips either to an outdoor bed,
or if you're adventurous you can try to fruit it indoors.
Here's EASY WOOD LOVER CULTIVATION TEK by Fahkface.

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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: stonesun]
    #14735360 - 07/08/11 09:10 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Totally bookmarked that link! :smile: Thanks, StoneSun!

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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #14735393 - 07/08/11 09:25 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

P.S. the reason P. Cubensis is so popular to grow is because it is easy. If you truly have a P. Subbaeruganescens, it will be MUCH harder to fruit...I wish you luck. Cubensis can grow on wood, if you put it there, and subbs don't look anything like cubes, so if it looked like a cube and grew on wood, it's prob. an inactive stropharia sp.

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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: dr0384]
    #14735412 - 07/08/11 09:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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paducahovoids said:
it's prob. an inactive stropharia sp.




Quote:

dr0384 said:
They are a lot stronger than cubes and smaller.



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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: stonesun]
    #14735419 - 07/08/11 09:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

im wondering how the op knows they are active, but doesnt know what species they are.

people actually eat mushrooms they find without identifying it?

"oh its bruising blue right?"


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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: k00laid]
    #14738064 - 07/08/11 08:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Been eating these mushrooms for years. Pushing 10 years. So I know they're active and can spot them from a mile away.

They do look like google images of Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
Should I just treat them like Psilocybe subaeruginosa? I'll have to do some reading.
How's it harder to make it pin? I know cubes are aggressive pinners, but do the conditions need to be more precise for P.sub?
I was thinking about getting it to colonize, case 50/50 peat verm, then putting in a sgfc outside so there's heaps of fresh air and just keep the moisture up.
Any comments? or feedback on this method?


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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: dr0384]
    #14738097 - 07/08/11 08:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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So I know they're active and can spot them from a mile away



Hmm..  you must have ACTIVE VISION!  :thebaron:

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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: k00laid]
    #14738368 - 07/08/11 09:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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k00laid said:
im wondering how the op knows they are active, but doesnt know what species they are.

people actually eat mushrooms they find without identifying it?





My gf of long ago was shocked when I ate blackberries I found growing by a road.
Huge bush full of big fat blackberries, and she wouldn't touch one.
"They could be poisonous!"

So I'm inclined to believe OP can find them, and agree a proper species ID is the next step.
Then tissue->agar->grain->something->cased with something->fruiting conditions->:mushroom2:


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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: Doc_T]
    #14738703 - 07/08/11 10:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If it is an azure, it will only fruit in near freezing conditions, and considering what time of year it is now, it ain't an azure.

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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14739110 - 07/09/11 12:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'm in Australia
Its 10C most of the day


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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: dr0384]
    #14739183 - 07/09/11 12:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonx/4305877790/
this is what they looked like. less than an inch in height


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Re: unknown species how to proceed [Re: dr0384]
    #14739234 - 07/09/11 01:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

And then got wavy caps when mature


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