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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: Beanhead]
    #14731000 - 07/07/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sober most the time. If i smoked weed often still I wouldn't be, I don't smoke more than like once a month now though. I get high on shit weekly but not errday.

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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: IamMatt]
    #14731039 - 07/07/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Today's my first day being sober. I'll probably still drink a beer occasionally, but I'm gonna take a tolerance break from the herb for a week or two.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14731055 - 07/07/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Sober here. :prance: Weed has become a very infrequent thing and save for the weekly/biweekly entheogenic voyage/psychedelic retuning I'm mostly sober.

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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: Beanhead]
    #14733806 - 07/07/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Beanhead said:
Quote:

Beanhead said:
two days and hating it :nicekitty:




Lies

I think crossdressing and homosexuality(not sure on this one) are both in the DSM-V so do you believe everything they write in the books or what... Addiction is a whole other issue then a disease.

:lol: that sounds so retarded... It's a pattern i'm seeing lately; every quitter starts hating on the drug they once loved so much or they are just being completely the hypocrit.

You feel sorry for people that they take drugs?

:rolleyes:




Drug use is a symptom of many different problems. I started using drugs because of extreme depression and anxiety in my teens. It progressed farther and farther until I was a full blown multiple drug addict and alcoholic. I couldn't function without a drug or a drink in my body. Hell, I couldn't even get my hair cut without having a couple shots of bourbon or some beers so I wouldn't freak out when the hairdresser would talk to me.

Taking a drug is a choice, that is true. Addiction is not a choice. You just can't choose to not be an addict. But from what I've learned, you don't have to pick up a drug again, that is a choice that I had no idea I had before. I was so used to eliminate or change my emotions with drugs for about a decade.

If you don't believe it, sit in a NA meeting and listen to what people have to say. It's pretty powerful stuff. Believe me, the crack head in the alley or the dude on the side of the road panhandling for change isn't doing that because they want to. They are doing that because they are ADDICTED. Whether it be drugs, alcohol or anything else.

I'm just so happy that since mid January, I've only gotten drunk like twice. And I used to be a speed addict, an alcoholic, an ecstasy addict and I had a brief stint with cocaine addiction.

And now I'm clean. My thoughts are clearer, I have a relationship with my family and friends, I can care about others, I have money in my pocket that, I can pay bills, I can not worry about driving home intoxicated.

So to whoever that doubts addiction as a real medical condition, FUCK YOU.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14733812 - 07/07/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl2: You gotta be shittin' me....


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14733824 - 07/07/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If eating one and a quarter weed brownies and smoking a few bowls count as being sober then i am sober.

Edited by skatealex2 (07/07/11 10:31 PM)

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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14733830 - 07/07/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It certainly isn't a disease. Unless you mean a disease that is embedded in all of our genetic code, making the entire population susceptible.

But that doesn't match the definition of a disease...That sounds more like human genetics.

Once you've gotten there, it becomes much more than a habit; but to call it a disease is a copout. It was your own actions that led you down that road.
Disregard to consequences is a bad way to live.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14733838 - 07/07/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I am sober almost always but I enjoy the very occasional trip. Of course, this is if we are disregarding caffeine, if it is in the box here, I am like never sober.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14733915 - 07/07/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Rabidbaboon said:
It certainly isn't a disease. Unless you mean a disease that is embedded in all of our genetic code, making the entire population susceptible.

But that doesn't match the definition of a disease...That sounds more like human genetics.

Once you've gotten there, it becomes much more than a habit; but to call it a disease is a copout. It was your own actions that led you down that road.
Disregard to consequences is a bad way to live.




But what if you can't control your actions? I know it's not a disease in the traditional sense, but it's certainly a psychiatric disease (or disorder). Whatever you want to call it.

Just like depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia.

People don't chose the lifestyle of an addict because they are normal every day run of the mill 9-5 people. It starts with emotional or psychiatric pain and goes completely fucking off the wall.

I know a girl that spent $90,000 on coke and heroin in less than a year. Would a normal person do that?

I also have a friend that used to snort oxy, heroin and coke as well as trip on acid and mushrooms and really good ecstasy every night for a long time (alternating of course). He was able to stop it all. He wasn't an addict. He just got high for fun. It baffles me. These days he has maybe a small glass of bourbon a night and if he goes to the bar he has 2-3 beers.

Not an addict. 

Last time I saw him (he moved out of town for a job) around christmas, he had maybe 3 fingers of makers mark while I drank an entire 5th of Wild Turkey 101.

I envy people that can use responsibly. I really do.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14733991 - 07/07/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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But what if you can't control your actions?




You just need to realize that you can.

The psychiatric disorder these people suffer from is lack of self restraint. I agree that some are much more likely to fall in the pits of it, but we can all make a conscious effort to fight it.

I'm having my own struggle with not smoking cannabis right now. I know it sounds lame, but goddamn do I love me a bowl of herb to finish off the day.
Sometimes I get in this mindset where I justify me smoking weed, and it all seems to make perfect sense. I get euphoric just thinking about the satisfaction of being high for a little bit.
But then I have to sidestep that stream of logic, and address the consequences of my actions. I need to lower my fucking tolerance and I can't do that if I'm smoking all the time!

I know this sounds like child's play compared to addictions resulting from hard drugs, but take it all as a metaphor for something bigger.
Human psychology is rather universal.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14734113 - 07/07/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i realize now, but I needed help. As did millions of people around the world.

BTW, I hope you get over your weed addiction.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14734122 - 07/07/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i am working on it.

but i still smoke now and then on the weekends, (today being right before the weekend but close enough.) i am not buying weed every day or other day now.

weed is great. don't want to misuse her now.

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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14734143 - 07/07/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have only met one person that was in Narcotics Anonymous because he only smoked weed.

Everyone else had problems with much harder drugs.

I wish I could enjoy weed. I'd be fine with it. But I had to stop in like 2008. It just gave me so anxiety it was completely not enjoyable.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14734159 - 07/07/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i don't get anxious but i get extremely bored, zoned; and feel like a recycle my sub-conscious patterns, more then usual, when i smoke more for more then a couple days.

i take sorta week long breaks... but sometimes i'll smoke a a joint or a couple bowls with someone.

like today... totally didn't intend on getting any weed today but an awesome friend, who will be referred to as Dylon who Spits Mad Fire, spotted me (as in gave me out of nowhere) a fin for no reason... and now i am smoking buzzed as fuck.

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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14734186 - 07/08/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I am almost never sober.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: 4896744]
    #14734210 - 07/08/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

lucky:mad:

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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: I R Crankey]
    #14734233 - 07/08/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Wut a Twist said:
lucky:mad:




It's not that hard. :shrug:


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: 4896744]
    #14734378 - 07/08/11 01:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sober by choice.

Mushrooms made me this way. It's like they amplify my senses and I can actually feel what's good and bad for me. I hardly do them anymore tho. But if I could be constantly tripping on shrooms, I would.

Weed makes me lazy.
Beer makes me fat.
Other Alcohol makes my immune system not work properly.
I don't really do/try other drugs.

Although I plan to smoke some DMT one day... take a peek deeper into reality.


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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: ImaginingEmotions]
    #14734383 - 07/08/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

fat isn't really that bad... but.. yeah...

i mostly agree, with you, other then laziness from pot can be perceived as many things... i never got paranoid form it but alot of people have.

i'm not saying it's "psychedelic" and that's why, or anything like that... just saying, it seems to effect people in  different ways.

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Re: So who here is completely sober? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14734400 - 07/08/11 01:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I like this thread.  I'm gearing up for another break, or term of sobriety, it's a pattern I've been going through for the past few years.  Most sober time I ever had was a year, but I also have had 10, 8, and 6 months over the past 6 years.  Always in and out of the program (AA).


And MisterMuscaria... I agree with what you said about your sponsor having a field day if you told him about your shroomery habits.  That made me LOL.  Because I've been through the same shit with sponsors before.  Too funny...

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