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Rieshi and Garden Giant Grow Log
    #14569618 - 06/06/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Foreword: I am not an experienced cultivator.  My suggestions are just things that I have found that work.

I began my adventure by receiving reishi and garden giant cultures from Lima and hebedc through bemushroomed.com.  A week after ordering them I received two packages with petri dishes.  I spawned them to rye berries in quart jars that were pc'ed for 1.5 hours.  The reishi fully colonized in about a week, the mycelium ate it up!  After a few days, the garden giant colonized.  I did a round of grain to grain transfers for both using a glove box (Now I just do it outside, IMO it is the best way to do it, no contams yet).  They both colonized very quickly again.

From here I did some experimenting.  First I spawned the grain to mesquite wood chips that I found at wall mart.  I bought the smaller bag, as it had smaller pieces (1-3 inches).  I was not sure on the best way to pasteurize or sterilize the chips so I decided to just heat it in water at 160-180 degrees Fahrenheit for 25-30 minutes.  I have done this every time since and have had no problems with contams or colonization.  It was a pain in the butt to get the colonized reishi out of the quart jars!  They were extremely thick, to the point where I had to use a sharp knife to cut sections out.  I tossed in about 3 quarts of reishi into a thick trash bag and added 3 lbs. of the wood chips.  I let it sit outside at this point (IMO outside = relatively clean).

Surprisingly they wood chips colonized in a week.  However, without sawdust they were all loose pieces and I didn't believe it would be able to fruit.  I decided to go and look for some sawdust.  After fruitlessly searching on line for sawmills or other ways to get sawdust I decided to go to the local hardware store.  I was able to find wood pellets for a stove.  This is just compressed sawdust.  I also went to wallyworld and found some cedar mulch outside for cheap.  I figured that since it was a hardwood it would be a good substrate.  How wrong I was.

When I got home with my goodies I began pasteurizing the chips and cedar in the above mentioned manner.  I also pc'ed some wild bird seed in quart jars.  Excitedly I added the wood pellets (now sawdust) and cedar to my colonized reishi wood chips.  I also made up a bunch of small plastic bags with polyfil filters using all possible contaminations of WBS, cedar, and sawdust then inoculated with colonized rye berries (reishi).  To my surprise, after a week nothing had grown on the bags with the cedar including the large bag that had the.  I went online and quickly found out that cedar has antibacterial properties that inhibits fungi growth :frown:  I really wished I checked before I started.

Back to square one... or two, since I still had a good number of colonized jars.  This time I decided to do it correct from the beginning.  I separately spawned both reishi and garden giant jars to pasteurized mesquite wood chips from walley world and wood pellets using trash bags.  This colonized in about a week.

I emptied the bag of reishi into a monotub.  I am just waiting on it to fruit now.  As for the garden giant I was able to find a tree trimmer that had a fresh pile of wood chips from a plum tree.  Due to the rain from the last couple days the pile had a white mold growing in the middle of it already.    When I dug into the pile and saw the white I could feel the heat from the mold, it was like opening an oven.  I took about a half of yard from it, trying to just get the top level of it.  I did get a good amount of mold though.  I pasteurized about a half dozen batches in a huge pot that I found in Wal-Mart, trying to pick out all the infect chips that I could find.

Next, I dug a few inches down to create a 3x6 foot plot that receives shade until the late day.  I added about 1.5 inches of the plum chips then broke up my garden giant primary spawn and layered it on top, slightly mixing it in.  Finally, I added another 1.5 inches of plum chips.  Now, it is a waiting game.  I really hope that the mold in the chips will not reappear.

If anyone has any comments or questions I would really appreciate it.  Thanks for reading!

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Re: Rieshi and Garden Giant Grow Log [Re: mycy]
    #14569716 - 06/06/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Good luck with you grow! :super:
Can you just try to describe the look of garden giant mycelium? Was it strongly rhizomorphic or somewhat similar to reishi? Because that sounds way too fast colonization for it, and with all the fake garden giant cultures going around, I suspect yours isn't real either. I don't want to scare you, but it could easily turn out you have the turkey tail culture that has been going around.
I sincerely hope not!
Try to remember the look of the mycelium, or better yet post a picture if you have one.

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Re: Rieshi and Garden Giant Grow Log [Re: Tangich]
    #14572266 - 06/06/11 11:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the reply Tangich.  I hope that's not the case! As I recall the reishi myc was very rhizomorphic, but the garden giant wasn't.  I'll take a picture when I can.  I'll be happy just to get an edible to grow.  Any thoughts on the plum chips having white mold, or my pasteurization technique?  I picked up Stamets "How to grow gourmet and medicinal mushrooms" but I'm pretty much winging it now.

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Re: Rieshi and Garden Giant Grow Log [Re: mycy]
    #14574186 - 06/07/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Reishi I have is not rhizomorphic at all.  It forms a solid mat of mycelium which becomes almost impossible to cut as it gets older.

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Re: Rieshi and Garden Giant Grow Log [Re: MonkeyKnifeFight]
    #14647990 - 06/21/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the info.  I checked my mushroom patch the other day. (I am not around often) The GG patch was dried out and only a small area of it had colonized.  I'm hoping that watering it will reinvigorate the spawn.  Hopefully it isn't dead :frown: The Reishi is looking good, but maybe a little dry also.  Take a look at my monotub-





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UPDATE [Re: mycy]
    #14706327 - 07/02/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Here are some updated pics, this is the jar of Garden Giant, look real?

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These are pics of the Rieshi:
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Is there a problem with the way it is growing?  It has been in the tub for 3 weeks now.

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I saw some green growing on top of the myc in the corner.  I decided to break that chunk off and toss it.


Finally, here is the Garden Giant patch that I have going.  Pic taken at night, half is covered in myc, the other half is almost covered.  Should I wait for it to completely be covered before I take off the tarp and initiate pinning?

Thanks for the help!

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Re: UPDATE [Re: mycy]
    #14709700 - 07/03/11 04:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Idk about the garden giant, I haven't grown em' but reishi is NOT Rhizomorphic. it's actually very "fuzzy" looking and most people actually mistake their grow for being cobweb.
Your reishi looks like it dried out and it's attempted to fruit due to that, it'll have a consolidation period most likely but I honestly have no idea if you'll get any meaningful fruit.:frown: Reishi are very resilient, they'll probably bounce back. I've abused and neglected my reishi mycel before and still gotten it to bounce back and end up producing beautiful fruit bodies.
  Personally I'd try casing it with pasteurized verm, sawdust, and chips 10/45/45
(verm for added humidity)
or at least get about the same consistency
NO MORE CEDAR! :wink:

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Re: UPDATE [Re: PabloEscaSchmar]
    #14731189 - 07/07/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I am going to case my GG plot tomorrow with 50/50+ tek unless there is a better option. 

Also, I will take a pic of the Rieshi, some fruits are growning now.  I think I got lucky with the contam problem. After tossing the chunk that had it, nothing has come back.

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Re: UPDATE [Re: mycy]
    #14731206 - 07/07/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Can you up some pics of your reishi? I'd like to see how they're doing

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Rieshi Pics [Re: PabloEscaSchmar]
    #14754140 - 07/11/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Here is the Reishi. Pic taken today.  How does it look?



Close up:



I also cased my Garden Giant with 50/50+.  I hope it goes ok.

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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: mycy]
    #14754187 - 07/11/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Amazing:thumbup:

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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: KBG1977]
    #14754955 - 07/12/11 01:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm suprised you got a conk that beautiful from that.
:sambergfive: good job

Heres my current batch I put in the fc 3 days ago,
and its a good example of a reishi cake.

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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: PabloEscaSchmar]
    #14757051 - 07/12/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks Guys!  Your reishi cake looks really nice.  The wood chips look small, what type did you use?

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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: mycy]
    #14759882 - 07/12/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

thx.
I use this

supplimented with 5% verm and 10% bran
the bran fills in the gaps and is extra nutrients, and the verm is for moisture content.

I've got a bit too much RH in my martha tho :mad:
its about to fruit, and I'm waiting on them antlers...

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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: PabloEscaSchmar]
    #14765945 - 07/14/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks Pablo; I didn't know you could use Aspen.  I'm going to have to try that on my next reishi batch!  It looks like you have a little mushroom piss on the top their :frown:  I bet it will do just fine, reishi seems to be really resilient.

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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: mycy]
    #14766033 - 07/14/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

what I thought was reishi piss, was actually the beginning of pinning.
like this
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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: PabloEscaSchmar]
    #14772529 - 07/15/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That is stunning mate:thumbup:is the tea really that good for you?I have a bunch,and have yet to make tea.

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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: KBG1977]
    #14772681 - 07/15/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, it is very good for you.  Good for basically everything.  The thing that pulls me in about it is the oxidation of the blood.  Bad ass muscle pump & qi energy all day

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Re: Rieshi Pics [Re: iDmt]
    #14776064 - 07/16/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I love reishi tea mostly because of the ability to lower blood pressure and raise heart health. Plus my family has a history where pretty much everyone has died from cancer. So I'm the guinea pig generation to c if reishi does its magic.

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Garden Giant Pics [Re: PabloEscaSchmar]
    #14823944 - 07/25/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There is good news and bad news.  The reishi accidentally got some nasty water spilled into it and it stopped the mushrooms growth and turned it black.  I decided to toss all of it.  I learned a lot from this first try though.  I will fruit it out of mycobags and use a mister on a timer to make sure it doesn't dry out.

Good news everybody!  The Garden giant looks to be growing strong.  Check out these pics from after I cased it with 50/50+ a couple weeks ago.


Wispy mycelium:


How does it look?

I am initiating fruiting by taking the tarp off the top.  Any tips from here on out?  (Especially tips on watering)  Thanks for the help!

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