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BRF questions
    #14721379 - 07/05/11 04:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I used the BRF/PF tek and mixed my 2 cups of Verm a cup of BRF and water. When I boiled them for 90 minutes and took them out they look so white and the BRF looks like it's in chunks  compared to everyone's pics of their finished products I was wondering if I should remake it or just call it good and noc them later tonight when they are cool

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Re: BRF questions [Re: brogz]
    #14721437 - 07/05/11 04:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think that they should work fine. Maybe a tad slower colonization.

Next time make sure to mix water with vermiculite and add flour later.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: brogz]
    #14721450 - 07/05/11 04:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:confused2: Give us a step by step of what you did. Pics if you can.
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek


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Re: BRF questions [Re: Carl Sagan]
    #14721645 - 07/05/11 05:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I make my BRF by putting organic whole rice grains in a kitchen blender, and blend the fck outta them, then use a fine strainer to get out the finer powder, and put the larger particles back into the next batch, works fine, and I have to do it anyway as I can't find any prepared BRF let alone the organic variety anywhere here, and the "rice flour" I can find is insanely expensive anyway.

Remember to add water to verm and mix that very well BEFORE adding the BRF, this way the BRF does not clump together as bad, but some of my cakes also have fairly large white spots, which maybe makes it harder to spot a contam, but they still work.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: Arugula-375]
    #14721758 - 07/05/11 05:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That's how I mixed it. This is my first time grow and I only made four regular mouth half-pint jars so I'll noc them tonight then in 2-3 weeks I'll make sure I mix them good and get wide half pints
I will give a step by step when I get home and post pics

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Re: BRF questions [Re: brogz]
    #14723631 - 07/06/11 12:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

1. I measured out 2 cups of Verm and put in one cup of water in.

2. I mixed the water and Verm together until nearly all the water was soaked into the Verm. I mean only about a cap full of water in the bottom.

3. I lightly sprinkled BRF on top of the Verm. Then I mixed it in and repeated until the BRF was gone.

4. I put the BRF mix into 4 regular mouth half pint jars. I filled the jars up about 3/4 of an inch away from the top of the jars.

5. I took a napkin and wiped away the Verm, BRF, and moisture away from all the jars. I put the lids on them with holes for inoculation and covered the lids with tin foil.

6. I placed the jars on a stack of lid rings and boiled the jars with the BRF/Verm mix for 90 minutes.

7. I let the jars cool for half an hour and put them in my closet.

8. After around 10 hours I inoculated one jar. I'm going to post pictures tomorrow once I get my camera back from my mother.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: brogz]
    #14727459 - 07/06/11 05:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Heres what my jars look like this is only one of them but they all look the same.


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Re: BRF questions [Re: brogz]
    #14727871 - 07/06/11 07:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You used too much water, thats just asking for contams


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in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure

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what does that mean? its active?

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Re: BRF questions [Re: nixon]
    #14727908 - 07/06/11 07:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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You used too much water, thats just asking for contams




The BRF-tek is

1 cup water
1 cup brf
2 cups verm

He followed the tek perfectly.


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Re: BRF questions [Re: Carl Sagan]
    #14729104 - 07/06/11 11:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thats what confused me. I mixed the water in until there was just a few drops down in the bottom when I tilted the bowl. Same way they did it in the PF tek.

What do you think I should do with them? Toss or Inoc? I just don't want to waste my time waiting for them when I could have new jars already started.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: Carl Sagan]
    #14729301 - 07/07/11 12:04 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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nixon said:
You used too much water, thats just asking for contams




The BRF-tek is

1 cup water
1 cup brf
2 cups verm

He followed the tek perfectly.




In this case you didnt mix the substrate properly, you should give them time until birthing, my guess is that it'll come out of the jar all clumpy and not together, won't hurt to try though.


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in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure

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what does that mean? its active?

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Re: BRF questions [Re: nixon]
    #14730089 - 07/07/11 07:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

How much water did you use when you boiled?  Did you boil or steam?  I maybe wrong, but I think they are supposed to be out of water.  Even if not using PC.


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Re: BRF questions [Re: tracingBigTime]
    #14730462 - 07/07/11 10:04 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

When I boiled the jars I placed down too tiers of jar lids and the water was only to the top of the first tier of lids.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: brogz]
    #14730794 - 07/07/11 11:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I was taught it's 3.5 C of Verm to 1C of BRF, or make it a 3.5:1 ratio. Those jars look absolutely chunky, like the BRF took up all the moisture and made clumps.

The mushrooms may eat up all the water from the different proportions before they can make it out of the jars.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #14731016 - 07/07/11 12:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm so the pf-tek is outdated?  I'm about to start my own grow and would like to avoid problems like these.  I'll keep an eye on this thread.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: Bluemangroup]
    #14731057 - 07/07/11 12:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Verm looks too chunky to me.

Break it down some.


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Re: BRF questions [Re: DrRockso]
    #14731154 - 07/07/11 01:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I would redo the pf tek again.  Those look too white and chunky!!!!

I always mix verm and brf together and then add water slowly (while mixing).  Not exactly the way shown in videos or written teks, but I get the best consistency this way.

Mix with fork between filling jars.  Always breaking up the larger chunks. 

2:1:1 is the correct ratio.  Maybe a hair less water.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: tracingBigTime]
    #14734110 - 07/07/11 11:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I bought some fine verm today. The verm I used in these jars were about the size of dimes. I am thinking that's what made my jars look like this. Tomorrow I am going to mix up new jars and I'll post pics once they are done.

I'm going to keep the one jar that I inoculated just to see how it turns out and then compare that to my fine jars.

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Re: BRF questions [Re: brogz]
    #14734320 - 07/08/11 12:50 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:rail2: :thumbup:


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Re: BRF questions [Re: nixon]
    #14734920 - 07/08/11 05:43 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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nixon said:
Quote:

Carl Sagan said:
Quote:

nixon said:
You used too much water, thats just asking for contams




The BRF-tek is

1 cup water
1 cup brf
2 cups verm

He followed the tek perfectly.




In this case you didnt mix the substrate properly, you should give them time until birthing, my guess is that it'll come out of the jar all clumpy and not together, won't hurt to try though.




That is a good starting point but the varying grades of verm means that he could have still used too much water even following the tek exactly as is.  My first 2 attempts failed because of too much water for the coarseness of my verm so I had to make my own ratio.

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