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Dosile Kouki
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: 2859558484]
#14731403 - 07/07/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i dont know what your getting at with that, but i mean, i think its important to have real aspirations or things that have a possibility of success given the current circumstances. i.e. " i want everything to be legal instantly " is similar to saying " i want to find atlantis ". i think it's important for ones goals to be targeted and on point, not just idley saying some far out and unrealistic goal that has little to no prospects of coming to fruitiion. i can want to be the next president if i want, but the chances are such that its just a pipe dream and thus there is not even any point of even thinking it in the first place.
as the Rza once said " keep it real playa "
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Seuss]
#14731813 - 07/07/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > it's high level criminal activity.
The only reason it is a "high level criminal activity" is because we have defined it as such. Nobody was harmed. No property was destroyed. There was no violence. There was no loss. There was no negligence. It was no different than driving around with a half-quart of water. Unfortunately, somebody has decided that some chemicals are extremely dangerous and that society must be protected from them while other drugs that are extremely dangerous (such as alcohol and nicotine) are fine to release into society. The double standard is staggering. Legalize all drugs. End prohibition. Let people be responsible for their own well being. Free the legal system to focus on real problems, such as violent crimes, thefts, and property damage rather than wasting their time prosecuting non-violent consensual crimes, such as drug use.

yeaup, no is getting hurt while I get high. The laws themselves create this criminal activity. People need to go out and rob and steal, be involved in shady activities in back allies cause they cannot get drugs threw legal leggit channels. We've created this problem. Not the drugs. If all drugs were sold out of vending machines freely availble at all times, in pure quantities, in a clean fashion, no one would get hurt, no one would be strung out and have to do horrible things in order to procure their drugs. Driving around with a lbs of ketamine is no more crazy then driving around with a doobie, besides the fact that it is illegal , the only crazy thing about it is the stiff penalties one faces or doing such things, if those penalties wouldnt exist there wouldnt be anything crazy about it. You are going about thinking the wrong way. This is what is fueling the mentality of most folk. This needs to change before any laws will change.
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Dosile Kouki
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: snoot]
#14732092 - 07/07/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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me personally i don't see the illegality of the drugs as the problem; i see the black market and organized crime as the problem. and i hate to say it but the legislature will never act in a way that will strengthen organised crime. it just wont happen.
if you legalize the drugs , thats only a one point plan, and wont change anything. organized crime will stil reign supreme and will actually be strengthened by a move like that. sure it would be great to not have to worry about legal ramifications and drugs would be free to use, but there needs to be more then that.
the government needs to take over the drug market and force out the criminal elements from the black market. legitimize it as an industry, lower prices so organized crime is run out of the business. this way everyone wins. drugs are free for all to use, government gains both increased revenue and decreased expenses, and organized crime is significantly weakened. perfect policy in my eyes!
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14732502 - 07/07/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DosileFlynn said: me personally i don't see the illegality of the drugs as the problem; i see the black market and organized crime as the problem.
you fail to associate the two. Why is organized crime and the black market a problem? You dont see organized crime selling cardboard boxes, or ink toner.
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Linus]
#14738657 - 07/08/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So, ill tell you exactly what is going to happen to your friend. Im from illinois, ive seen this shit happen several times over, and over again.
people that are dealing pounds of K, are the ones that decided to try and get rich quick.... because they usually dont have the effort and motivation to A) work a real job B) come up with their own idea.
So, after they look the hard charges in the face, they're going to take the easy way out of this one, the same way they tried to take the easy way to making a shit ton of money.
they are going to nark, roll, and otherwise flip other people to the cops. and then more than likely, they will think they beat the system, and start dealing again, and get busted... Again... and give more people to the cops.
i swear, ive been in the 'scene' for about 10 years in chicago, and this shit happens all day....
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: ZippoZ]
#14738718 - 07/08/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ZippoZ said: So, ill tell you exactly what is going to happen to your friend. Im from illinois, ive seen this shit happen several times over, and over again.
people that are dealing pounds of K, are the ones that decided to try and get rich quick.... because they usually dont have the effort and motivation to A) work a real job B) come up with their own idea.
So, after they look the hard charges in the face, they're going to take the easy way out of this one, the same way they tried to take the easy way to making a shit ton of money.
they are going to nark, roll, and otherwise flip other people to the cops. and then more than likely, they will think they beat the system, and start dealing again, and get busted... Again... and give more people to the cops.
i swear, ive been in the 'scene' for about 10 years in chicago, and this shit happens all day....
happens alot in the midwest actually. people love to narc, its just what I assume most folks will do by default.
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: snoot] 1
#14738841 - 07/08/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I fuckin hate snitches.
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: joshisstoned]
#14739046 - 07/09/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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been snitched out twice in my life, both times resulted in me being in jail for a minute till my lawyer came, both times I couldve put others in jail, both times I kept myself silent. I've learn alot both times, I guess if it happens a third time I have no one blame but myself.
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: snoot]
#14741335 - 07/09/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow, while K is a recreational drug, it is scheduled really fucking low so to have that type of punishment behind just 1 lb is ignorant. Plea bargain if there is even the slightest bit of doubt the shit will be thrown out or you're innocent.
You'd probably get less time for fucking killing someone. I've heard about alcoholics killing innocent people while driving drunk, and they get the same (or less) amount of time as 1 lb of K. 
Sad shit... although I can't help but wonder what people do that gets cops searching their vehicles. Having a grow op/dealing out of a house is one thing since people run their mouths, but myself and all of my good friends have never had our vehicles searched. Fuck, I've been pulled over three times in 14 years of driving.
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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
#14741809 - 07/09/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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5HTSynaptrip said: Wow, while K is a recreational drug, it is scheduled really fucking low so to have that type of punishment behind just 1 lb is ignorant. Plea bargain if there is even the slightest bit of doubt the shit will be thrown out or you're innocent.
You'd probably get less time for fucking killing someone. I've heard about alcoholics killing innocent people while driving drunk, and they get the same (or less) amount of time as 1 lb of K. 
Sad shit... although I can't help but wonder what people do that gets cops searching their vehicles. Having a grow op/dealing out of a house is one thing since people run their mouths, but myself and all of my good friends have never had our vehicles searched. Fuck, I've been pulled over three times in 14 years of driving. 
Well he said it was near a festival, so my guess is that the kid was dressed like a "druggy", and probably acting weird.
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