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Pound of ketamine charges
    #14712361 - 07/03/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A friend of a friend got busted with a pound of ketamine in Illinois. Does anyone know what he is facing?

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges [Re: Linus]
    #14712381 - 07/03/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

An endless procession of big black dick.

A pound? Fuck.:ooo:


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14712396 - 07/03/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

obvious question but it was already dried?

if it was still liquid he may have a chance to fight it.

but good chance they will throw the book at him.. and was he doing stupid shit when he got busted?


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges [Re: rackem]
    #14712440 - 07/03/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This thread should really be moved over to the Security secion of the forum.

Active members there should be able to help answer your question.


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges [Re: Linus]
    #14712517 - 07/03/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hey dude i hate to say this but....if he really got caught with a pound of ketamine....say goodbye to him, because you ain't going to be seeing him for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14712525 - 07/03/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ya hes gotta set up some big time mofos to get off. if he doesnt do that then you wont be seein him around for a long time. if ever again.

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14712535 - 07/03/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Depending on priors, at least a couple years though I'd bet...

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges [Re: Linus]
    #14712539 - 07/03/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

even if he does become an informant, he's still looking at serious jail time, they can't just let high level drug dealers walk free (even if he's not a drug dealer and it was bad luck he got caught with that, they will class him as a drug dealer just because of the sheer ammount he had)



if you get caught with a pound of powder , and it was actually yours and all that, theres no getting out of that... even if he informs, they might reduce his sentence, but its still a very high level narcotic offence and he is in big trouble dude...


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Linus]
    #14724386 - 07/06/11 06:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Pub.

Reason:
User request, way more fitting.

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14724816 - 07/06/11 09:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

God dude what I'm reading is not looking good at all.

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: vandago]
    #14725509 - 07/06/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: smoke dank]
    #14725818 - 07/06/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No.  Please don't spread misinfo.



I found this site which just sounds terrible for the op's friend.  Apparently in illinois they have class X felonies for drug dealers, and mandatory prison time is imposed to all, and there is no option for probation.

http://www.chicagocriminallaw.com/CM/LegalArticles/Class-X-Felony-Drug-Charges-in-Illinois.asp

Class X Felony Drug Charges in Illinois


Class X Felony Drug Charges in Illinois

Most drug charges in Illinois are felonies; class X drug felonies are the most serious drug crimes and carry significant mandatory minimum sentences. When possession charges for different drugs are combined or combined with weapons charges, a conviction can even result in a life sentence.

Class X Felony Drug Charges

Class X felony drug charges generally refer to possession with intent to manufacture or distribute drugs. It is not necessary for the state to prove that a defendant actually intended to traffic the drugs; intent is assumed based on the quantity of possession. Even someone with no prior drug convictions or charges may be charged with a class X felony based on the amount of drugs the person allegedly possessed.

It is a class X felony to possess 15 or more grams of heroin, fentanyl, cocaine, morphine, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) or any analog of these drugs. It is also a class X felony to possess 200 or more grams of most controlled substances, including but not limited to any substance containing peyote, a derivative of barbituric acid, amphetamine or any analog thereof. Additionally, possession of 30 grams or more of any substance containing pentazocine, methaqualone, phencyclidine (PCP), ketamine or any analog thereof is a class X felony.

Mandatory Imprisonment

Upon conviction of a class X felony, the defendant will be sentenced to serve prison time for a minimum of six years. Class X felony sentences for many drugs range from imprisonment for:

    Six to 30 years for possession of 15 to less than 100 grams
    Nine to 40 years for possession of 100 to less than 400 grams
    12 to 50 years for possession of 400 to less than 900 grams
    15 to 60 years for possession of 900 or more grams

Even first-time offenders are not eligible for probation-only sentences and will serve prison time if convicted. Class X felonies also carry a fine up to $250,000. Another penalty of up to $500,000 or the street value of the drugs may be imposed in some cases.

Those who have been charged with a class X felony drug charge should speak with an experienced criminal defense lawyer to discuss what penalties they are likely to face if they plead guilty or are convicted of the specific crimes charged. In some cases, it may be possible to negotiate with the prosecutor to amend the charge to a lower offense, which is punishable by probation.


Now I don't know how credible this is..... I could actually be spreading misinfo too......but says here with the amount he had he's looking at 12-50 years mandatory :frown: :frown: :frown:

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: vandago]
    #14725956 - 07/06/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"15 to 60 years for possession of 900 or more grams."

Water weighs 1 kilogram per liter so a gallon (about 3.78 liters) would weigh 3780 grams. I would expect the weight of a gallon of K to be about the same weight as a gallon of water.


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: vandago]
    #14727316 - 07/06/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Now I don't know how credible this is..... I could actually be spreading misinfo too......but says here with the amount he had he's looking at 12-50 years mandatory :frown: :frown: :frown:




No you got that correct, he is definitely looking at a Class X felony. 

He can probably plea it down and get 9 or 12 years.

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14727475 - 07/06/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Holy fucking shit. This is fucking ridiculous. I don't know why he was stopped but it probably not even a real reason as it happened right outside of a festival. Im guessing just out of state plates and fucking judges on order to give warrants to search. 12- 15 tho, this is some college kid who's life will be ruined by this. This war on drugs needs to fucking end. I think he may have been with one other person hopefully they can split it down at the very least to a half pound. Goddam tho seriously this kids life is over, repeat KID.


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Linus]
    #14727501 - 07/06/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i don't want to sound judgemental or anything, and forgive me if this rubs you the wrong way,


but what the hell was he doing with a POUND of ketamine, ~450 grams. i mean c'mon thats just ridiculous. and driving around with it?? in the vacinity of a big festival?!?!? it seems like it's his fault for being careless and stupid.


please don't hate me for saying that, but it needed to be said.



i agree the war on drugs is ridiculous, and non violent drug offenders are being locked away for excessively long terms with hardened criminals. its not right.


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Linus]
    #14727531 - 07/06/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Linus said:
Holy fucking shit. This is fucking ridiculous.




Yes.  A human tragedy and an awful use of tax dollars.

Consider volunteering or donating to the Drug Policy Alliance, they are only of the only groups that fight for the legalization of all drugs.

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I don't know why he was stopped but it probably not even a real reason as it happened right outside of a festival.




His only chance is to have the case dismissed due to an illegal search.

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12- 15 tho, this is some college kid who's life will be ruined by this.




President Jimmy Carter said that drug laws should not be more harmful than the drugs themselves, but no one listened to him.

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I think he may have been with one other person hopefully they can split it down at the very least to a half pound.




No you can't split the blame with someone else, all people get charged with the full weight.

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14727620 - 07/06/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not offended, he wasn't my friend, but yeah bad judgement. I'm more angry at the laws but I do have empathy for anyone who gets busted. I'm just shocked thats the law there. Thanks for letting me know tho vandago. Never even heard of a class x felony before.


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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: vandago]
    #14728309 - 07/06/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Neither have I until this thread, and I was shocked.  Stay the hell out of illinois with drugs.

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Re: Pound of ketamine charges (moved) [Re: vandago]
    #14728332 - 07/06/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Stay the hell out of illinois with drugs.




Also: don't show up at a festival with a felony amount of drugs unless you're shopping for a size 10 asshole.


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