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OfflineSmirnoff
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Casing necessity...
    #14710842 - 07/03/11 12:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ok guys I need to clear this out once in for all!

Here's my plan:
BRF cakes crumbled to coir/verm trays and put into a SGFC.

My question is: Do I need to case and why casing?

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RogerRabbit said:
You don't need to case bulk substrates
RR




That said why do I see many posts/teks with people casing their bulk substrate? What's the advantages and disadvantages? When is it needed? Could you guys just clear out the casing for me please? Because it seems like some do and some don't but noone explains why.

Thanks for helping


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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: Smirnoff]
    #14711164 - 07/03/11 01:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You need to case a crumbled cake.  This is not a bulk substrate.  A bulk sub would be if you spawned the cake to coir/manure/straw then you dont need a casing.  I never case bulk its an extra step which is another chance for contam

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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: Smirnoff]
    #14711193 - 07/03/11 01:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

A casing layer is useful when your ambient RH is very low. Otherwise you don't need to case bulk substrates.


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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: LeopardMan]
    #14711344 - 07/03/11 02:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'm spawning coir/verm with crumbled cake... isn't that a bulk substrate? In this case I don't need to case unless my Rh is very low?


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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: Smirnoff]
    #14711359 - 07/03/11 02:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Smirnoff said:
I'm spawning coir/verm with crumbled cake... isn't that a bulk substrate? In this case I don't need to case unless my Rh is very low?



O i didnt see that if your spawning to coir/verm then no you dont need a casing layer.

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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14711381 - 07/03/11 02:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I use monotubs, never cased, works fine without

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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: ozzysmygod]
    #14711398 - 07/03/11 02:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Then why do I see so many people casing their monos in grow logs or teks? Well... I guess in winter with the heating the Rh goes down so a casing may me required for some person. As I see it it's just another chance of contam and a risk to ruin all your previous hard work...


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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: Smirnoff]
    #14711444 - 07/03/11 02:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Smirnoff said:
Then why do I see so many people casing their monos in grow logs or teks? Well... I guess in winter with the heating the Rh goes down so a casing may me required for some person. As I see it it's just another chance of contam and a risk to ruin all your previous hard work...



I ask myself this question all the time Why do ppl case mono's?

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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14711457 - 07/03/11 02:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Alright then I was in the right direction... These ppl with their casing just messed me up a bit and I needed some clarification on the subject!

Thanks guys!


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Re: Casing necessity... [Re: Smirnoff]
    #14723764 - 07/06/11 01:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

casing is huge in a dry location, i live in Colorado and i once had a 3-4 pound hpoo in a tub that only produced about a quarter OZ (dry weight, all aborts) in a few months... now that suxxx donkey d


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