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OfflineAnarchyAndPeace
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Still having issue with humidity, please help.
    #14698764 - 06/30/11 08:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

hey guys,
well I got the humidity up, but not far enough. I can get it to about 72% and my goal is 90. Earlier I was told to drill more holes, which I did, and after adding the cakes I went up a terrific 12% to get where it is now (how ever I'm not so confident in my hydrometer, fuck caligrowkits.) however, I know for sure it's not humid enough and the perlite really doesn't feel wet (i folllowed RR Lets Grow Mushrooms and the tek exactly, got the perlites surface area covered) and now they feel somewhat damp. I currently have 3 damp paper towls in there (i had two but a few minutes ago the humidity started dropping to about 65% so I added a 3rd). I don't have any holes plugged up (as instructed), which I have what I judge is enough for my grow chamber, and they're a little bigger than they should be but I composated for that. I'm going to try plugging some of them unless instucted otherwise again and explained what I should do. Please help this noob out :frown: have really nice pins though (that started devolping inside the jar, no new ones but the the ones that have started are getting bigger fast :laugh:) Btw, no verm roll, I don't have acsess to it right now. The cakes keep seeming dry about every 2 and 1/2 hours so I mist them. I've also had a fun running for about 5 hours a day, if that makes a difference. Advice please!

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: AnarchyAndPeace]
    #14698780 - 06/30/11 08:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you have it lifted off the ground (or whatever) 2" or more, right?  if you do, or that doesn't work, you might have too many holes.


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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: sage1o1]
    #14698793 - 06/30/11 08:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I do. Should I plug em? Also what's a good way to tell if the cakes are hydrated? I don't wanna over water and is a fan that often too much?

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: AnarchyAndPeace]
    #14698825 - 06/30/11 08:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

More holes lowers humidity. Tape some up. Also spray down the walls of your terrarium to help keep RH up. If it evaporates quickly plug up more holes. Use this method to calibrate your terrarium

Also make sure your perlite is still damp

Also re dunking a dry cake is a good idea, if they feel light they're dehydrated


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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: AnarchyAndPeace]
    #14698832 - 06/30/11 08:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

plug a couple of 'em, yeah maybe, or maybe more perlite.

you have to just kinda look at a cake to tell if it's hydrated. its appearance and weight is what we all go by. pics?


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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: sage1o1]
    #14698865 - 06/30/11 08:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'll try my hardest to get some up tomorrow. I have to work with limited omputer acsess and mobile phones. I plugged some, and imma spray the walls and watch em. Thanks guys. And what will the apperence be compared to a dry cake? How long should it take till I have fruiting btw?

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: AnarchyAndPeace]
    #14699170 - 06/30/11 09:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but with my FC I made a hole in the side for a fish tank pump, attached an air stone, and set it inside of a glass of water in the middle of the terrarium.

This constantly puts moisture into the terrarium and the perlite keeps the humidity at a constant 99%. I have forgot to put the lid of the terrarium on for 30 - 60 minutes before and the humidity bounced right back up every time. I do still mist and fan, but it is not necessary for humidity because I didn't for a while. But the cakes will dry out if you don't mist and the moisture might pile up if you don't fan.

Something you could try though, if you wanted to be sure your conditions were good.


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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: Garfelt]
    #14699302 - 06/30/11 10:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I assume you're using an sgfc.
TAKE OUT THE TOWELS.  you're blocking crucial airflow and lowering your rh.  Might as well not even have holes in the bottom, jeez.
If you have 1/8" holes every 2 inches, all six sides, elevated at least 2" off the ground, and 5" of damp perlite, your hygrometer is wrong.  Mist heavier, till there are dew like little drops on the cakes surface.  Mist the walls.  I think you're worrying too much. 
Sgfc works beautifully.  I've never had a hygrometer give a "proper" measurement but the humidity is fine *on the surface of the substrate", so long as you follow the guidelines above.
Your cakes will turn blue if your rh is a problem.  And FAE is a more important pinning trigger I've found than max rh.
Mushrooms take a while.  They know how to do it tho.  Just breathe, smoke a bowl, chill out, give it time.
People give such bad advice here sometimes :thumbdown:

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: ISOfantastic]
    #14701992 - 07/01/11 01:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

thanks :smile:. First time grow, very excited and a little nervous. Lost 3 cakes to contams early on but after more reading I have wonderful pins and hopefully will be expiericing my first trip in not too long :laugh:

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: AnarchyAndPeace]
    #14702051 - 07/01/11 02:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Why are you guessing about the RH with a hydrometer your not sure of? get a proper analouge one and calibrate it then go from there


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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14702839 - 07/01/11 05:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You should be excited!
Did you take out the paper towels??
Seriously, you're risking your pretty pinsets if you leave them there.

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: ISOfantastic]
    #14703120 - 07/01/11 05:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i took them out :smile:

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: AnarchyAndPeace]
    #14703180 - 07/01/11 06:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: ISOfantastic]
    #14703222 - 07/01/11 06:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quick question btw, i threw one of my 3 contamed cakes out side under some durt, and it colonized the dirt to the surface and is actually starting to pin (a nice little cluster of 3 pins) but some of the myc that is showing on the surface is infested with a green mold (i dont think its trich, but thats what it was contamed with in the first place, and I cut it off. It looks much lighter and growing differently.) Anyway, if these mushrooms grow will they be safe to pick and eat even though im sure the cakes contamed with something? And does eating the mushies wet provide more potentcy? Everyone here screams dry dry dry but from what I understand that degrades on of the psychodelic chemicals in the mushies. Does drying them make them more potent? Id love to just pick em and eat em

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: AnarchyAndPeace]
    #14703318 - 07/01/11 06:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Dude you were getting some bad advice at the beginning of this thread, luckily ISOfantastic and steemonkey jumped in to set you straight.

I told you in an earlier thread to calibrate that hygrometer, that's gonna be the culprit.

Oh and you can eat the outdoor mushies from your contaminated cakes

....and you got people on both sides of the dryness vs. potency debate. My opinion is that there is no difference, and if there is, it's just  a very slight difference. If I notice anything, it's that wet shrooms sometimes seem to work faster, but that subjective and it could've been caused by setting and body chemistry. So I guess I think that wet ones are slightly stonger, but you can just eat MORE dry ones.

-Dry shrooms are just a "tiny snack" and wet ones can be a whole meal (I like to eat mine with ranch dressing).
-Only way to long term store them is to dry them.
_Can't do the lemon tek with wet ones.

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: Chez man]
    #14703336 - 07/01/11 06:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, im pretty good at filtering bad advice. I pride myself at being at least a semi-educated noobie. I dont like asking stupid questions and am anal about knowing everything I can about projects like this lol. Just all the differing answers in the searches confuse me sometimes.

And what I understand is that weight dry is aprox 1/10 of wet, so if I wanted to do a first timers dose (for me:2gs) I should eat 20gs wet correct? Couldnt this be one shroom?

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: AnarchyAndPeace]
    #14703439 - 07/01/11 06:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I hope it wasn't me giving the bad advice...  i said more perlite or maybe (big maybe) plug a few holes.


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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: sage1o1]
    #14703525 - 07/01/11 07:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Unless its penis envy, you'll get about 8% of your original weight.
Eat 22g fresh.
Wait two weeks.
Eat 2g dry.
Compare!
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: ISOfantastic]
    #14703807 - 07/01/11 08:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The ones fruiting from the dirt are proof that you're worrying too much about the ones inside :smile: the organism outside realized it needs to spread spores. 5" perlite, holes every 2", misting and fanning, and you should be golden!
Good job too, and good luck!


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Re: Still having issue with humidity, please help. [Re: ISOfantastic]
    #14704075 - 07/01/11 09:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

ISOfantastic said:
Unless its penis envy, you'll get about 8% of your original weight.
Eat 22g fresh.
Wait two weeks.
Eat 2g dry.
Compare!
:thumbup: :thumbup:




I'm sorry, I've never heard of Penis Envy having a different wet:dry ratio. What's the ratio with PE?

Do you have any links?

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