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OfflineLewDoja
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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #14705818 - 07/02/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So what's the point of the greenhouse, I ask again...?





i think your guys are overlooking the fact that the greenhouse is ur fruiting chamber-  a controlled micro climate with as much Solar Food as you want to give WHatever plants you decide to grow.... wide range of plants or trees can be accomplished this way .... 

it'll take a lot of investment and planning but better go BIG or GO home!


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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: LewDoja]
    #14707327 - 07/02/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

With a sprinkler system only so many types of crops could be grown, with a controlled environment like a greenhouse any plant could be grown.

There will come a time when the economy will crumble completely, when a human can be replaced by a robot no matter what task is needed to be done. Then how will people pay for anything? How will they earn anything?

I could definitely see communities being built around these greenhouses, where everyone puts in some time helping to maintain the greenhouses and in return get certain amounts of food.

Edited by giza (07/02/11 04:51 PM)

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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: giza]
    #14707408 - 07/02/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

people that need government assistance could be moved to designated areas that have houses built around the greenhouses, the people can then maintain the facility and get paid with food and housing.

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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: giza]
    #14707521 - 07/02/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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people that need government assistance could be moved to designated areas that have houses built around the greenhouses, the people can then maintain the facility and get paid with food and housing.




So even though everyone has told you that the greenhouse wouldn't be cost-effective you want societies to revolve around it?


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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: 4896744]
    #14707612 - 07/02/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, if I were to have 100 million dollars, I would sink a few million in making a few greenhouses and/or communities so that others may follow in my footsteps. This idea is more for a person with extra of money, it's not something I came up with to make money off of, it is strictly for provisional purposes kind of like a donation but instead of cash a building that could provide large amounts of foods/medications.

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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: giza]
    #14707714 - 07/02/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why don't you take that same few million and invest it in a much more cost-effective way of producing food.  Then many more people would benefit from it, possibly even including yourself if you so wished.

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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #14708150 - 07/02/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What would be a more efficient way? And nothing that has to do with the slavery/killing of other living beings, I would have no part in that.

Only other thing I have came up with so far is building greenhouses where people have little land and they can rent out a space in it for the own garden and have orchards where they can rent out trees.

Edited by giza (07/02/11 07:44 PM)

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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: giza] * 2
    #14710643 - 07/03/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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What would be a more efficient way?




Growing food on land where it makes economic sense to do so.

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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #14710933 - 07/03/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I see, so build around small towns.

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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: giza]
    #14713214 - 07/03/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I see, so build around small towns.




Oh wait, they already do that.


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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: 4896744]
    #14713385 - 07/03/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's not the best idea to grow in the desert due to the fluctuating temperatures (40-50 degrees at night 100+ during the day) that plants cant handle.  As far as building a greenhouse to control the environment the energy costs of maintaining 60 degrees would require air conditioning of around 40 degrees during the day and heating of around 20 at night which, as mentioned by others, will greatly increase cost (not to mention transport from remote desert location to processing to market, all this cost money that investors would not be willing to pay).

The future of agriculture will be localized roof top farming as well as large scale vertical farms that are built in cities.  Transport will be greatly reduced compared to current farming methods, as food wont have to travel from the farm as it is already in the city and can be utilized there.  Also, hydroponics will greatly reduce the amount of water used compared to current methods.



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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: Idiot]
    #14716343 - 07/04/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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It's not the best idea to grow in the desert due to the fluctuating temperatures (40-50 degrees at night 100+ during the day) that plants cant handle.  As far as building a greenhouse to control the environment the energy costs of maintaining 60 degrees would require air conditioning of around 40 degrees during the day and heating of around 20 at night which, as mentioned by others, will greatly increase cost (not to mention transport from remote desert location to processing to market, all this cost money that investors would not be willing to pay).

The future of agriculture will be localized roof top farming as well as large scale vertical farms that are built in cities.  Transport will be greatly reduced compared to current farming methods, as food wont have to travel from the farm as it is already in the city and can be utilized there.  Also, hydroponics will greatly reduce the amount of water used compared to current methods.






Thank you for explaining it to me, that is very interesting.

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Re: Using the desert by building greenhouses [Re: giza]
    #14722984 - 07/05/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDtalksDirector?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/3/3QZp6smeSQA

In this video he talks about some type of "Greenhouse" that can be used to turn desert back into fertile ground check it out


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