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InvisibleKochon
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First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices
    #14694826 - 06/30/11 12:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hi fellow shroomers, I have lurked over here, watched Let's grow mushrooms countless times, asked a few questions here and there.. Now I need some feedback/advices about the hardware/supplies I'll be using!

Here's the link to the photobuket album, I'll keep it updated!
http://s1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/GilbertCKY/Pre%20PF%20TEK/

Now here are my jars, funny story, I had people try to buy me some, first person got me 500ml ones, the second one 250ml ones, but they're tall, so I went to the store and got 2 packs of 12x 250ml small wide mouth ones, so basically, I have 56 damned jars, but only 24x 250ml small wide mouths. I got:
12x 500ml
20x 250 not wide mouth
24x 250ml wide mouth

Could I use them all or only the 250 wide ones?
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all three types side by side:



500ml:



250ml not wide mouth:



250ml wide mouth:



And here is my future FC's, they currently don't have holes, but I will drill millions of them as soon as I get my drill :P Which ones do you guys think I should take? the big ones or the small one?

Big ones, I got 4 of them:



Small ones, got only one:



Here's my mister, I'm not sure if I should use it, It used to contain windex and god knows what... what do you guys think?



And, I currently do not have any idea about FAE, what should I do? I'm seriously low on money these days :/

And finally, are LCD temp/humidity displayers reliable? like this one :
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Temperature-Humidity-Hygrometer-Thermometer-w-Alarm-/180686535607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a11c1bbb7

ANY feedback is appreciated!


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14694841 - 06/30/11 12:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you can us the jars that dont have the shoulder for cakes, and the ones with shoulders for grains or liquid cultures.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: USASpores]
    #14694845 - 06/30/11 12:09 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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you can us the jars that dont have the shoulder for cakes, and the ones with shoulders for grains or liquid cultures.




Liquid culture! Interesting, I'll read on that. Thanks!


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14694861 - 06/30/11 12:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

be sure to be extra sterile and clean..use gloves and face masks..and flame sterilie the needle after each jar.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14694863 - 06/30/11 12:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, both of the wide mouth jars will be fine.  The 500mL is a little on the large side, and if you've got 24 of the smaller wide mouth jars I'd just use them to start you off.  You only want to use wide mouth jars as when you come to birth your cakes, a jar with a shoulder is going to make it impossible to get your cake out without destroying it somewhat.  You can also use one of those large plastic containers for a still air box (glove box) for doing all your semi-sterile work in.  Just cut two holes in the side for your arms and clean thoroughly with 70% iso alcohol before use.  Good luck :thumbup:

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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: saintpedro]
    #14694877 - 06/30/11 12:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, both of the wide mouth jars will be fine.  The 500mL is a little on the large side, and if you've got 24 of the smaller wide mouth jars I'd just use them to start you off.  You only want to use wide mouth jars as when you come to birth your cakes, a jar with a shoulder is going to make it impossible to get your cake out without destroying it somewhat.  You can also use one of those large plastic containers for a still air box (glove box) for doing all your semi-sterile work in.  Just cut two holes in the side for your arms and clean thoroughly with 70% iso alcohol before use.  Good luck :thumbup:



That's exactly What I was thinking about doing for my glovebox! Thanks for the input about the shoulders vs wide mouth!

If I have 2 strains is it better to keep them in different boxes?


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14694880 - 06/30/11 12:23 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

no they'll be fine in the same fruiting chamber.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: USASpores]
    #14694883 - 06/30/11 12:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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no they'll be fine in the same fruiting chamber.



Great, thats useful to know. And also what about my mister? or FAE?


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14694891 - 06/30/11 12:25 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

it will be fine, just be sure to clean it out really good with soap and water and be sure to pump it so the soapy water goes up the tube and cleans it out..


and for fae I would just mist and fan three or four times a day in a shotgun terrarium


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14694895 - 06/30/11 12:26 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Kochon said:
Quote:

USASpores said:
no they'll be fine in the same fruiting chamber.



Great, thats useful to know. And also what about my mister? or FAE?




The misters fine just clean it well with soap and water. And for FAE just fan the terrarium 4-5 times a day with the lid for about 10 sec, or if you have a fan thats a plus too


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in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure

nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?

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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: USASpores]
    #14694898 - 06/30/11 12:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

USASpores said:
it will be fine, just be sure to clean it out really good with soap and water and be sure to pump it so the soapy water goes up the tube and cleans it out..


and for fae I would just mist and fan three or four times a day in a shotgun terrarium




Ah, beat me to it :thaaannks:


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in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure

nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?

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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: nixon]
    #14694911 - 06/30/11 12:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: USASpores]
    #14694929 - 06/30/11 12:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

When you guys say fan it 3-5 times a day, you mean put a small fan in front and let it blow air towards the FC? And sorry for being a noob, but isnt my FC a shotgun terrarium?


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14694950 - 06/30/11 12:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yep with holes every 2 inches its a shot gun...and by fanning i mean take the lid off and fan it over the tub for 20-30 seconds at a time.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14694957 - 06/30/11 12:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If your SGFC is built to proper specks and is elevated the right height you shouldn't need to fan it more than 3x a day less you risk a heavy dip in your Rh. Be sure to mist after fanning to help retain moisture. BE SURE TO LET YOUR CAKES CONSOLIDATE (sit for 7+ days AFTER innoc) This is one of the biggest fruiting issues that noobs run into. Believe me! Don't point a fan directly at your FC it will dry it out and can push contams into it too. If you want a fan to do your fanning put it on medium-low facing somewhere else to give it indirect airflow. :thumbup: post some pics cant wait to see what happens :popcorn:


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: babz89]
    #14694981 - 06/30/11 12:54 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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If your SGFC is built to proper specks and is elevated the right height you shouldn't need to fan it more than 3x a day less you risk a heavy dip in your Rh. Be sure to mist after fanning to help retain moisture. BE SURE TO LET YOUR CAKES CONSOLIDATE (sit for 7+ days AFTER innoc) This is one of the biggest fruiting issues that noobs run into. Believe me! Don't point a fan directly at your FC it will dry it out and can push contams into it too. If you want a fan to do your fanning put it on medium-low facing somewhere else to give it indirect airflow. :thumbup: post some pics cant wait to see what happens :popcorn:






this is wrong, you mist and then fan...the water evaporating off your cakes is a big pinning trigger.


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: babz89]
    #14695034 - 06/30/11 01:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Now I'm stuck with two completely different techniques, remove the lid and fan for about 20 seconds, or put a fan not facing my SGFC directly, What do I do here?


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: Kochon]
    #14695045 - 06/30/11 01:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

everyone has their own different methods, each work for different people lol


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: USASpores]
    #14695066 - 06/30/11 01:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

After you have pins and fruits coming up you need moisture not evap (forgive me for not specifying)


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Re: First PF Tek Grow, need supplies advices [Re: babz89]
    #14695096 - 06/30/11 01:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So I fan them until there's fruits and then just mist them? Confused sorry for being a noob :confused:


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