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OfflineDourSiezel
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I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo
    #14692596 - 06/29/11 04:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So I've been doing Ecuadors in Rye Grass seed and Pure verm casing.
I know Coir should be used, but I don't. IDK Why? I still get 20+ pins per little tub (not sure exact size [bout the size of a shoebox] i think we put a good 2 to 3 quarts of spawn per tub to be fruited) and they turn into monsters bigger than my hand (have pics but no way to upload yet sorry).

Anyways, I'll be moving up to Pans soon and I figured this would be a good time to learn to upgrade to manures.

My prep is using quart jars, I use 1 1/4 cup of rye grass seed, and 5/8 cup water, like RR's instructions...

Now my question is; Do I add the Manure to the substrate ingredients I put in my jars before PC or do I add it to the vermiculite i case with?

Thanks, any and all advice will be taken golden!

Also Pics of the Ecuadors will be here soon

Edited by DourSiezel (06/29/11 04:31 PM)

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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: DourSiezel]
    #14692676 - 06/29/11 04:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I can't wait till I am at the point where I can do manure casings...it shall be glorious.

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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: HardTrippin]
    #14692697 - 06/29/11 04:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Don't add it to your spawn jars. You typically spawn rye or whatever into manure/compost.

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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14692732 - 06/29/11 04:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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psilocybinjunkie said:
Don't add it to your spawn jars. You typically spawn rye or whatever into manure/compost.



sweet this was the answer i was looking for!

I think I will continue with manure casing, I've read that cut up wheat straw works well with it but i can't seem to find a good recipe for Shit on Straw casings.

... back to the searching feature for another few hours ...

Edited by DourSiezel (06/29/11 04:58 PM)

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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: DourSiezel]
    #14692811 - 06/29/11 05:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Mix your hore manure,verm,gypsum then pasteurize it,let cool then spawn your grain to that it trays or whatever your planning to use,then let it colonize,then case


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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14692842 - 06/29/11 05:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

SteelMonkey where is the best place to find hore manure? Truck stops? Large cities? I myself have been looking for a while now with no luck...:wink:


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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #14692870 - 06/29/11 05:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Farms/ horse ranches. Farm owners love to give away that pile of horse manure that just seems to just keep building.


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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: subliciouscompost]
    #14692881 - 06/29/11 05:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

As for the manure, don't pc it, pasteurize it. I use pillow cases and let them sit in 160 degree water for 3 hours then hang to dry for field capacity.


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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14692884 - 06/29/11 05:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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steelmonkey said:
Mix your hore manure,verm,gypsum then pasteurize it,let cool then spawn your grain to that it trays or whatever your planning to use,then let it colonize,then case




Should I mix the broken down spawn with this said mix and then lay in the tray, or layer the bottom of my tray with said mix then lay spawn over?


Thanks again everyone for advice! Will indeed give back to you guys when I have succeeded. Don't know how long it will be at that point, but the day will come!

As for my plans in the future -

I will Pasturize at said temp, and make bulkin substrate.
I think my casing will just continue to be Vermiculite but I'll add a wee bit of Oyster Shell to help out the pH level.

Edited by DourSiezel (06/29/11 05:20 PM)

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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: DourSiezel]
    #14692894 - 06/29/11 05:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Mix together evenly so you can really see when they are truly finished.


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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: subliciouscompost]
    #14692938 - 06/29/11 05:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

oh oh oh!! one more question.

So far, I am only capable of making prints into syringes.

I know.. I know... I should already be at agar.. and I do plan so because of some iffy prints i was traded,

but Is it acceptable to make pan syringes?

only reason I haven't moved up to agar is because I haven't been out to get agar agar powder or any petri dishes/baby jars.

I wanna kinda save me a step and a drive, yet keep the contams to a decent minimum.

Will I be safe to do so?

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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: DourSiezel]
    #14693462 - 06/29/11 07:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Personally I mix and not layer also its perfectly fine to make a Pan syringe,did you hear otherwise? Pans are basically the same as cubes other than they need manure to fruit and a casing layer and lots and lots of fresh air exchange


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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14693513 - 06/29/11 07:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You can use the mix you want to use.

I do Damon5050 coir tek and add a couple of as much as i can grab of Hpoo and the same amount of wheat hay.

If you cant find Hpoo or wheat straw ( like me ) check the marketplace. I get mine from one of the members here.

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Re: I like Rye Grass and Verm but wanna start using Poo [Re: DourSiezel]
    #14693523 - 06/29/11 07:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

DourSiezel said:
oh oh oh!! one more question.

So far, I am only capable of making prints into syringes.

I know.. I know... I should already be at agar.. and I do plan so because of some iffy prints i was traded,

but Is it acceptable to make pan syringes?

only reason I haven't moved up to agar is because I haven't been out to get agar agar powder or any petri dishes/baby jars.

I wanna kinda save me a step and a drive, yet keep the contams to a decent minimum.

Will I be safe to do so?



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