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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
    #14492928 - 05/22/11 09:18 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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If it's just surface noise, what's their real purpose?




It is just surface noise. It's the perception of rebellion. The public eats that shit right up. Controlled and harmless. As I said in my previous post, to the powers that be, Entertainment is a weapon, and entertainers of a certain magnitude do not get there by accident.

Their purpose is as was also stated, social engineering. Events of the past which have led us to this moment in which the powers that be are seriously out of control. Everything is working in their favor. The facilitators being mostly of the hippie-follower generation who have turned their backs on every single value they claimed to hold in high regard.

In all kinds of matters of speaking, the 60's were a failure, one of them just happens to be the mass mind control through subculture and weaponized hallucinogens. I guess it takes a while to realize subculture is just another racket in which they catch the flies who've evaded the trap.




... Weaponized hallucinogens?

I was sorta with you (with a fat grain of salt) up to that point


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: propensity]
    #14492954 - 05/22/11 09:36 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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propensity said:
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SpiritualSnorkel said:
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propensity said:
If it's just surface noise, what's their real purpose?




It is just surface noise. It's the perception of rebellion. The public eats that shit right up. Controlled and harmless. As I said in my previous post, to the powers that be, Entertainment is a weapon, and entertainers of a certain magnitude do not get there by accident.

Their purpose is as was also stated, social engineering. Events of the past which have led us to this moment in which the powers that be are seriously out of control. Everything is working in their favor. The facilitators being mostly of the hippie-follower generation who have turned their backs on every single value they claimed to hold in high regard.

In all kinds of matters of speaking, the 60's were a failure, one of them just happens to be the mass mind control through subculture and weaponized hallucinogens. I guess it takes a while to realize subculture is just another racket in which they catch the flies who've evaded the trap.




... Weaponized hallucinogens?

I was sorta with you (with a fat grain of salt) up to that point




Why? Are you familiar with MK-ULTRA, and some of the operations blanketed under that name? Through the use of drugs, including hallucinogens, torture, post-hypnotic suggestion, electroshock treatment, they were able to achieve some frightening responses from people in terms of what they could get them to do and not remember afterward.

When you dose a French village with LSD, among other things, this constitutes a weapon... I don't see why you're hung up on simple semantics.


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
    #14492993 - 05/22/11 09:56 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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propensity said:
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SpiritualSnorkel said:
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propensity said:
If it's just surface noise, what's their real purpose?




It is just surface noise. It's the perception of rebellion. The public eats that shit right up. Controlled and harmless. As I said in my previous post, to the powers that be, Entertainment is a weapon, and entertainers of a certain magnitude do not get there by accident.

Their purpose is as was also stated, social engineering. Events of the past which have led us to this moment in which the powers that be are seriously out of control. Everything is working in their favor. The facilitators being mostly of the hippie-follower generation who have turned their backs on every single value they claimed to hold in high regard.

In all kinds of matters of speaking, the 60's were a failure, one of them just happens to be the mass mind control through subculture and weaponized hallucinogens. I guess it takes a while to realize subculture is just another racket in which they catch the flies who've evaded the trap.




... Weaponized hallucinogens?

I was sorta with you (with a fat grain of salt) up to that point




Why? Are you familiar with MK-ULTRA, and some of the operations blanketed under that name? Through the use of drugs, including hallucinogens, torture, post-hypnotic suggestion, electroshock treatment, they were able to achieve some frightening responses from people in terms of what they could get them to do and not remember afterward.

When you dose a French village with LSD, among other things, this constitutes a weapon... I don't see why you're hung up on simple semantics.




i feel it

this "weapon" really did fail and turned out to completely blow up (pun intended) in the governments face.


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14493032 - 05/22/11 10:18 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Delicious Apes said:
You're fucking retarded.




Haha, right. Pop culture occupies the minds of millions 24/7, yet no one has thought to harness this as a means of control.

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i feel it

this "weapon" really did fail and turned out to completely blow up (pun intended) in the governments face.




I'm not sure if it failed as I could see the circumstances we're living in now very well being the desired result.


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
    #14493045 - 05/22/11 10:24 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

the desired result is....hippie subculture?


yeh im sure the government was really pleased about that


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
    #14495506 - 05/22/11 08:47 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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propensity said:
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SpiritualSnorkel said:
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propensity said:
If it's just surface noise, what's their real purpose?




It is just surface noise. It's the perception of rebellion. The public eats that shit right up. Controlled and harmless. As I said in my previous post, to the powers that be, Entertainment is a weapon, and entertainers of a certain magnitude do not get there by accident.

Their purpose is as was also stated, social engineering. Events of the past which have led us to this moment in which the powers that be are seriously out of control. Everything is working in their favor. The facilitators being mostly of the hippie-follower generation who have turned their backs on every single value they claimed to hold in high regard.

In all kinds of matters of speaking, the 60's were a failure, one of them just happens to be the mass mind control through subculture and weaponized hallucinogens. I guess it takes a while to realize subculture is just another racket in which they catch the flies who've evaded the trap.




... Weaponized hallucinogens?

I was sorta with you (with a fat grain of salt) up to that point




Why? Are you familiar with MK-ULTRA, and some of the operations blanketed under that name? Through the use of drugs, including hallucinogens, torture, post-hypnotic suggestion, electroshock treatment, they were able to achieve some frightening responses from people in terms of what they could get them to do and not remember afterward.

When you dose a French village with LSD, among other things, this constitutes a weapon... I don't see why you're hung up on simple semantics.




Oh I see what you mean. it was a reading comprehension fail on my part.

I didn't perceive that you said the weaponized hallucinogens were  failure for some reason.

But yeah I know about Mk ultra, shit is fucked


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: Shins]
    #14497425 - 05/23/11 04:22 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

throwing up simple had gestures mean your a free mason satanist


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: Dead123]
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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #14508790 - 05/25/11 10:15 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Believe me, this hole goes a lot deeper. We could go into LSD consumption during quasi-masonic/grateful dead ritual as homeopathic OTO "elixir" substitute. We could go into the band members involvement with blood and organ donation, but....let's not go there right now. I just ate. Wouldn't you love to donate your blood and organs to members of a group called the Grateful Dead? I hear that since Jerry died, they now call themselves simply "The Dead". Lovely...
























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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: Adom] * 1
    #15914212 - 03/07/12 04:13 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, I need to clear up a few things in this thread.  I know its old, but I found it on google and had to shine a light on some of the bullshit in this thread.

Owsley stanley went to prison for 2 years for lsd.

Owlsey's family were high degree masons.  his grand father served in the senate.  So he naturally knew a lot of the things they knew.  He was not a free mason.  He was really into the kybalion and hermetics.  Also alchemy.  He said they all discovered some really interesting things during the acid test (such as telepathy).  It is a lot of the same stuff that free masons are into, but that doesn't mean he is a satanist.

Owsley did make that acid.  How could anyone say that is not true?  Owsley was very smart.  He knew a lot of things that most people dont know.  He knew how coral castle was constructed and knew a lot of electromagnetism.  Also, he knew how to heat a home with a vortex tube similar to how a geothermal setup works. 

He was not fond of the hells angels what so ever.  In fact, he refused to hang around with kesey and the merry pranksters at first (bear is not a merry prankster) because he did not like the hell's angels and it just seemed violent.  At the time him and some girl were hanging together and tripping all the time.  When he finally met up with kesey he decided to make it because kesey lost his gov't connection for it.  Other people attempted to make it, but it was not very pure and owsley felt it was his duty to make it the most pure.  He would sometimes throw out 30% of his product just to make sure its the cleanest possible. 

He also talked about smoking dmt around tube amps and the tubes would get red hot and burn out. the speaker cones would even melt.  He also discovered that if you take det with dmt it will make your dmt trip last over 2 hours. 

these are some of the things they experienced at the acid test.  He believed that alchemy and even magic could be true in a sense.  He would even put his hand on the reaction vessel to transfer his energy into his batches of lsd.  He was very much an alchemist.  He said he was not a scientist, but an artist. 

Also on his meat diet, you can say its stupid but its simply not.  I have followed his advice and my ashtma is gone as well as my epilepsy.  I have never gone more than 2 days without my inhaler and its been almost 5 months without using one.  He said, we only have had agriculture for around 15,000 years and we have bones dating back to over 900,000.  it would be almost impossible to feed a tribe plants that you can actually eat.  we believed plants were medicine and meat was food.  inuit eskimo's ate mostly blubber (fat) and they lived very healthy lives.  rarely did they suffer from any illness and never a case of heart disease or cancer.  also they had much thicker bones.  The reason for our population problems is agriculture.  if we stuck to our food chain there would no population problems.  dont take my word for it, you can read more here http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=287013 ;

That is bear's (owsley stanley) post on those message boards.  Before he died, you could easily contact him through email and talk to him.  Also, he did not get cancer from his diet.  He later found out his cancer was caused from hpv. The cancer didn't spread much because of the way he ate.  When he was in the hospital, his wife would grind up meat and put it in a syringe and squirt it down his throat. He did have surgery on his heart, but he did not have a heart attack.  He had a blockage every since he was a kid.  not a bad one or anything.  it was just always there since before he ate his diet (he started the diet at 22, i believe.)  He was lifting lots of weights and the blockage was getting in the way and he had the money so he decided to remove it.  It had nothing to do with a heart attack.  he was aware of the blackage since before his diet.  It never got any worse. he didn't start lifting weights until his late 60's or early 70's.  he was even able to keep up with the younger guys, he just required more days to rest in between to repair his muscles because of his age.

I can agree, there is lots of little masonic hints in the grateful dead, but have an open mind about it.  Jerry himself said he just enjoy's a lot of mystical things and gets into almost every religion.  He said to keep an open mind, because nothing is for certain. 

They are not satanist...


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: lurkey]
    #16106927 - 04/18/12 04:40 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

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Jerry Gar- CIA; whoa...

Grateful DEA-d; whoa again!

See, it's easy, just like the bible codes.
You can see the number 23 in everything, if you want to.
Jesus' face in a tortilla....
Elvis is alive(Bill Clinton)......
Why not use our imaginations more constructively? (& more fun-ly)
A modern sequel to the Illuminatus trilogy could be more high-larious than the original.
Maybe the Secret Chiefs are really super-intelligent ancient mycelia that have directed human affairs since homo erectus!!!
And it was THEY who wrote all of the songs from In The Dark!!!
One of their "rogues" created New Wave, Pee Wee Herman and The Simpsons!!!
Bill K lives in Hawaii because he speaks daily with the Dolphin Lords!!!! (that one could be true)
Phish fulfilled an old Algonquin prophecy about water consumption in the Northeast.
YMSB are really robots. (we can't turn them off, dammit!)
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im sorry but i HAVE to bring this thread back. It is so amazing man...this all lead up to this forum. PROPS TO YOU. and this poster above that i quoted...
Has anyone any information on this stuff? Things reveal themselves in weird ways don't they...?
Why the cryptic writing and single post in your account history...hmmm


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: Adom]
    #16803634 - 09/07/12 09:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

"Cause once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right."

:sun:

So what if they were. I love The Grateful Dead for the music and energy they bring no if they are at the groove killing babies for harvest season.



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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: Krispylite]
    #16978692 - 10/06/12 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:macdre:


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #16978734 - 10/06/12 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sun Ra is the shiiiiit


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: WhyAmISoTired]
    #17008538 - 10/10/12 11:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

AMEN!!! Hey I have played with a lot of Sun Ra's band!
I am from Philadelphia...what chu know about Sun Ra?
Although original members may have changed, the Sun Ra band still exists and is strong, has a "sun ra house" which I know people who currently live in. It's actually a crazy set of stories, going from club to club at night, finding those jazzheads still out there who, even if they don't know they are jazz heads, are becoming assimilated to the undercurrent of the only TRUE AMERICAN ART FORM.
I'd be honored as heck to be with the band full time, but I also know people in the band who have quit. It is wild scene.
fun,
great memories though, hope more to come.
glad I saw your post!!!
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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: Jordainio]
    #17008586 - 10/10/12 11:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

this thread should be destroyed! :crankey:






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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: jammin]
    #17770243 - 02/08/13 11:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I joined this forum just to laugh at the first post in this thread...seems like everything is right except the "satanist" part. Not much to say there except "you're close, but not quite". Have you watched the career arc of the Grateful Dead and RatDog, The Dead, etc. etc? They don't look exactly like blood smearing, baby sacrificing, lion-eating witches and wizards. They're hippies and bohemians, man!

It's funny, as I've slowly circled inward and discovered myself and the world around me, it's all become crystal clear now. Yet, it's still very fresh, new, and a bit frightening. Maybe that's why everyone likes to call it "satanic" and move on. It's a fraternity, bro, a really big one.


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: bernlin2000]
    #17779879 - 02/10/13 10:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Tom Wolfe's book, "The Electric Kool-aid Acid Test" didn't really raise the Pranksters up from Obscurity. The head Prankster, Ken Kesey was quite famous for writing "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" in 1962. Another lead Prankster, Neil Cassidy, was a major inspiration for Jack Kerouac's 1950's beat novel, "On the Road". In that book, Cassidy's character is called Dean Moriarty. (Kerouac was buddies with Allen Ginsburg and William S. Burroughs)
    Also The Beatles were not knighted by the Queen. They received MBE honors in 1965. This is one level below being knighted. John Lennon returned his MBE in protest. Paul McCartney was knighted by the Queen in 1997.


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: Adom]
    #17779997 - 02/10/13 11:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

why hasn't this shit been move to the conspiracy forum yet? :willynilly:

and why did you dig this thing up bernlin2000?


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Re: Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists? [Re: StrangeDesign]
    #17780559 - 02/11/13 12:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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He also talked about smoking dmt around tube amps and the tubes would get red hot and burn out. the speaker cones would even melt.  He also discovered that if you take det with dmt it will make your dmt trip last over 2 hours. 





tupe amps as in guitar amps? im going to test this theory. wtf is det?


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