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Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help
#14672150 - 06/25/11 08:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok so I got a few buddies in the MJ community who turned me onto spores and growing mushrooms. I had considered it before but decided to finally give it a try. Here is the run down:
-Wild Bird Seed -Vermiculite -Brown Rice Flour -Perlite -Trays to fruit cakes in -Enclosed Portable Greenhouse Rack (Fruiting Chamber) -Ultrasonic Cool Mist Humidifier -Spray Bottle -Hygrometer -Wide Mouth Ball Pint Jars -Presto 16qt Pressure Cooker Prolly forgetting something....
Spores were ordered from EarthsTongue. They will be in Monday. I got all I need and then some so I have all the supplies I need. I also have a full painters suit and gloves and masks as well to keep everything sterile. I also have on hand 91% ISO Alcohol for any cleaning. I currently have the WBS soaking and have been flushing it until the water was relatively clear and will let it sit for 24hrs. I already got rid of the floaters.
I am planning on running as many jars as I can up to from 1 syringe from ET which is 20cc. I should be able to run 10. I am following a recipe given by a friend I just want to make sure its right cause I am making my cakes with the WBS but using the PF Tek cause I am going to split my cakes and fruit from those in trays of perlite.
This is a 12 Pint Jar Mix: 8 Cups of WBS 8 Cups of Vermiculite 6 Cups of BRF 6 Cups of H2O (give or take)
The strains I will be working with are Space Coast, FL Spores and I ordered the Treasure Coast spores from them but they were out so I will get something close to it. I asked for Gulf Coast or the Cambodians but not sure what I will be getting. I am storing the SC's, deep freeze, for when I have a grip on this whole thing a little better.
Anyone have any thoughts or input? Anything I am missing or need to know before hand. I have been given a good run down of everything but neither of them are available for input and I need to get things rolling to prepare.
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672174 - 06/25/11 08:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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why are you using BRF if your doing grains check out some of my teks in my sig called favorite links
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: gus330]
#14672188 - 06/25/11 08:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was told I needed the BRF to make the WBS and Verm stick in cakes. I dunno, is this not correct? That could be wrong but I am going from memory. I will check the links. Thanks. I have been search and researching but I usually end up more confused from that.
Edited by Shagster (06/25/11 08:42 PM)
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672204 - 06/25/11 08:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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wbs and brf are 2 different approaches. Might I suggest," pf tek done right" by shea 25. Punch it in the search window also, "easy wbs tek" by doc 34.
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: SomeGuy]
#14672211 - 06/25/11 08:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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paducahovoids said: wbs and brf are 2 different approaches. Might I suggest," pf tek done right" by shea 25. Punch it in the search window also, "easy wbs tek" by doc 34.
Yes do this, but first go watch Roger Rabbit's videos on brf cakes, grain prep, and other subjects: http://mushroomvideos.com/
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672219 - 06/25/11 08:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672228 - 06/25/11 08:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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research man. you need WBS so that you can inoculate jars to do bulk, if you use the PF tek then you make cakes with BRF and verm. you could do a combo of both, but you dont add WBS to BRF
also look at mushroomvideos.com ... or org i cant remember. anyway they show you how to do a shotgun fruiting chamber, i'd stick with that on your first grow.
if you have a way of pulverizing the WBS into a flour like substance i've heard you can also use that as a substitue for BRF in the PF tek.
for WBS you need a pressure cooker. and you'd also need some bulk substrate like poo, coir, straw, or compost or something. check out some of the teks on this site follow them step by step and your bound to get good results
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Adam553]
#14672232 - 06/25/11 08:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Adam553 said: research man. you need WBS so that you can inoculate jars to do bulk, if you use the PF tek then you make cakes with BRF and verm. you could do a combo of both, but you dont add WBS to BRF
also look at mushroomvideos.com ... or org i cant remember. anyway they show you how to do a shotgun fruiting chamber, i'd stick with that on your first grow.
if you have a way of pulverizing the WBS into a flour like substance i've heard you can also use that as a substitue for BRF in the PF tek.
for WBS you need a pressure cooker. and you'd also need some bulk substrate like poo, coir, straw, or compost or something. check out some of the teks on this site follow them step by step and your bound to get good results
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Doc_T]
#14672239 - 06/25/11 08:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok so what keeps the cakes together with just the WBS and Verm? I am down to run it however is best and less likely to have or get contams so elighten me.
Thanks for the links. I will definitely check out those videos, he is who one of my buddies followed and he is turning out full trays of boomers every flush.
Thanks for all the replies guys its greatly appreciated. I want to do this run right and no errors, I havent skimped on anything I need.
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672247 - 06/25/11 08:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: gus330]
#14672254 - 06/25/11 08:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I have a Pressure Cooker so I can cook my jars and I do also have some pure Coco Coir as well I use to grow herb in, so i can do that as well. I have done the research, I have the tools I just needed someone to point me in the right directions if I was incorrect in any of the information given to me by other Boomer growers.
Thanks for the help dude.
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672266 - 06/25/11 08:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok so sounds like BRF and Verm is the way to go so I will stick with that. I assume there is no prep other than mixing it and adding water then into the jars and PC them for the 90mins at 15psi and then inoculate the jars and wait. Is this correct? I am going to watch the vids just want to make sure I got it now.
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672308 - 06/25/11 09:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea, that's the idea, but going from 0 to doing it is harder than it sounds
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672317 - 06/25/11 09:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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wbs colonizes by it self after you pc them and add spores or and lc. you have to break it up once fully colonized shake it up or beat the jar on something not to hard before spawning to bulk like hpoo or coir. there is no verm in a wbs jar just grains or maybe some gypsum.when you make brf cakes you make them mixing brf, verm and water once its colonized you birth it dunk it for 24 hours and place it into a shotgun fruiting chamber with about 4 inches of perlite inside the tub with holes drilled every 2 inches and with a 1/4 inch drill bit you need to do a lot of reading UTSF it helps out with all your questions
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: SomeGuy]
#14672329 - 06/25/11 09:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not that hard, there's a thread going on right now from a first time poster.
Still waiting on pics with that one...
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: SomeGuy]
#14672341 - 06/25/11 09:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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paducahovoids said: yea, that's the idea, but going from 0 to doing it is harder than it sounds;)
Yeah I know its not going to be easy the first couple runs but hopefully I can pull it off. I went with relative easy species of cubes so hopefully that helps in my favor. Thanks for your help.
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gus330 said: wbs colonizes by it self after you pc them and add spores or and lc. you have to break it up once fully colonized shake it up or beat the jar on something not to hard before spawning to bulk like hpoo or coir. there is no verm in a wbs jar just grains or maybe some gypsum.when you make brf cakes you make them mixing brf, verm and water once its colonized you birth it dunk it for 24 hours and place it into a shotgun fruiting chamber with about 4 inches of perlite inside the tub with holes drilled every 2 inches and with a 1/4 inch drill bit you need to do a lot of reading UTSF it helps out with all your questions
Ahh ok I got ya now. So then the WBS is pretty much useless for me in the tek I want to use until I decide I want to got bulk which I dont need cause this is just for personal and give away at festivals.
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Doc_T]
#14672347 - 06/25/11 09:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Not that hard, there's a thread going on right now from a first time poster.
Still waiting on pics with that one...
No worries I will post pics. I can only post my supplies right now, if you want pics of that I will post, just let me know. But I will definitely post them when I get started.
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672351 - 06/25/11 09:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: Shagster]
#14672364 - 06/25/11 09:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Not that hard, there's a thread going on right now from a first time poster.
Still waiting on pics with that one...
No worries I will post pics. I can only post my supplies right now, if you want pics of that I will post, just let me know. But I will definitely post them when I get started.
matter of fact, if you want it to work, go make a post in your journal. Tell us every single tiny thing you are going to do, and wait until someone tells you that'll work. You're chance of success will be several hundred times higher
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Re: Need Help With My First Try,,,, Please help [Re: SomeGuy]
#14672500 - 06/25/11 09:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I will post a journal after I get my jars going. I read through the Shea25 PfTek write up and I am going to follow it but just double it cause I am doing pints instead of half pints. I am also doing 10 jars instead of 5, or that is the plan atm. Thanks for all the help in leading me in the right direction.
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