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miganders
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Minimal resource hay tek + pics.
#14670741 - 06/25/11 02:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Materials required: Spore print ( I suppose a syringe would work just as well.) Hay* *Hay can be found as rabbit feed in any grocery store. Popcorn kernels.
Decent size plastic bag with a melting point above 80 Celsius. Usable jar (I used marmalade jars)
Oven Stove / cooking pot. air filtering material (micropore tape, polyfill, tyvek) Hydrogen Peroxide* *Peroxide is optional. Lysol
Foreword: This is a last-resort tek if you can't find Verm/poo/PC. It will probably have a high contamination rate and not yield that much compared to teks. But it is very cheap and all materials minus spores can be found anywhere in the world.
1.1 Soak your popcorn in temperate water over night. 1.2 Hydrate your popcorn. This is done by steeping/simmering it until 50% of the kernels have split open a little bit. 1.3 Rinse the corn to remove starch from it. 1.4 Dry your corn by placing it on a towel until it's only a little moist to the touch. 1.5 Take your jars and punch a small hole in the lids, then cover the holes with micropore tape/tyvek or stuff it with polyfill. 1.6 Load your jars with corn and put the lids back on, wrap the top of them with tinfoil. 1.7 Boil the jars in a normal cooking pot for 60 minutes. Make sure there no direct contact between the jars and the pot. 1.8 Take out the jars and let them cool, do not the remove the tinfoil.
2.1 Clean your bathroom and remove towels, toothbrushes, toilet paper and razors. 2.2 Take a shower. Make sure to clean your hair well. 2.3 Heavily dust the room with lysol. 2.4 After waiting an hour for the lysol to settle, bring your jars and spore print in. 2.5 Open your jars and gently dust some spores from your print on the corn. Works fast and make sure your fingers never make contact with the print or the jars. 2.6 Put your lids back on, shake the jars.
3.1 after 4-5 days you should see the first wisp of mycelia emerge. This can take a little longer or shorter. You might get very rizomorphic or very fluffy growth. This comes down to genes and maybe air exchange. 3.2 Some people like to shake their jars after they are 20-30% colonized. I prefer not to do this as i find it stuns the mycelia. 3.3 Once the jars have full colonized, soak the hay overnight in a weak peroxide/water solution. Peroxide is optional. 3.4 Remove some excess nitrogen form the hay by steeping it in 70-80 degrees Celsius water. 3.5, Squeeze the hay to remove excess water. This is important in preventing bacterial contamination. (You will probably see a few black bacterial patches anyway, but it's nothing to worry about if the mycelium has taken over) 3.5 Cut a few small holes in the bag and cover them with your filtering material* *I actually ended up tearing a hole in the bag while pouring the spawn in. It had no ill effects. I wouldn't advise it though. 3.6 Put the hay in the oven bag, close it and bake it at 75 Celsius for one hour.
4.1 Dust your bathroom with lysol as in step 2.1-2.4 4.2 Break up your spawn (colonized corn) and mix it in the hay as well as you're able to. 4.3 Seal the bag and let it sit for approximately two weeks. Depending how much spawn to hay you used (I like a 2/5 ratio). 4.4 Once you see the first pin forming, lower the temperature of the room and get the bag out in light. 4.5 If you feel the need to do so, you can tear a few rifts in the bag to promote fresh air exchange. 4.6 Once the veil on your shrooms break, pick them by gently twisting them at the stem until they go loose. 4.7 If you want another flush, you could try dunking the cake.




Edited by miganders (06/30/11 12:38 PM)
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek. [Re: miganders]
#14670958 - 06/25/11 03:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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If anyone have something to add, feel free to let me know.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14671475 - 06/25/11 05:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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updated with a few pics.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14671500 - 06/25/11 05:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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What part of the world are you in that there is popcorn but no rye?
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: Doc_T]
#14671519 - 06/25/11 05:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: What part of the world are you in that there is popcorn but no rye?
As far as I understand, you can't prepare rye without a pressure cooker.
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Foreword: This is a last-resort tek if you can't find Verm/poo/PC.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14671595 - 06/25/11 06:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You certainly cannot prepare popcorn without a pressure cooker.
...so this isn't a tek then? I mean, it's just a guess at this point? You haven't actually grown mushrooms?
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: Doc_T]
#14671631 - 06/25/11 06:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: You certainly cannot prepare popcorn without a pressure cooker.
...so this isn't a tek then? I mean, it's just a guess at this point? You haven't actually grown mushrooms?
Well you certainly can my friend  Or else I'm growing some kind of deceptive fungi mimicking cubensis perfectly.
As far as to how long i am in the grow, well as you can see by the pics, it's fruiting strong and the veil just broke on the biggest fruit.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14671638 - 06/25/11 06:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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So why can't you prep rye the same way?
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: Doc_T]
#14671697 - 06/25/11 06:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rye houses more spores inside the grain.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14672131 - 06/25/11 08:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rye houses more spores inside the grain.
Bull. I think its lucky you grew myc. on corn without sterilizing.
Some people have been fermenting grains and growing without a p.c. or even boiling their jars..
If you start growing a bunch of trich, i think you'll know what needs to change first.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: deadmandave]
#14673297 - 06/26/11 01:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I've done it twice, and I do sterilize, just not with a PC. All i know is it works.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14673341 - 06/26/11 02:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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good effort man.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: eLShaMukO]
#14673562 - 06/26/11 04:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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While a pressure cooker is optimal, whatever this guy is doing works so what's the big deal?
Keep us posted dude! I wanna know what your yield is!
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: Doc_T]
#14673609 - 06/26/11 05:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: ...so this isn't a tek then? I mean, it's just a guess at this point? You haven't actually grown mushrooms?
I don't doubt that he got some mushrooms. I do doubt that this took minimal effort though. Fermentation would have been much easier, and you can do transfers with it as well.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: maug]
#14673808 - 06/26/11 07:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think you may be onto something here.
If you can do a few more successful grows using popcorn without a pressure cooker and document it, I will give it a shot the same way and if it works you get some of my homemade brownies 
Ooookay, I am blind and did not see that you already posted your steps. I will give it a shot as soon as I get some spores.
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Edited by HybridprX (06/26/11 07:43 AM)
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14673899 - 06/26/11 08:26 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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miganders said: HydrogenPeroxide aka Bleach* *bleach is optional.
Hydrogen Peroxide is not Bleach. They are VERY different. Most household bleach is NaClO Not H2O2
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: digital3555]
#14674030 - 06/26/11 09:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, i corrected it.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14674071 - 06/26/11 09:28 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've cooked popcorn similarly. I boiled the jars for 2 hours each though, and I had a few make it. Most went bad though. Good luck to you.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: miganders]
#14674987 - 06/26/11 01:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice effort!
Sure the bulk couldn't use a little coffee grounds? I had a little potency loss because of low phosphate and nitrogen levels on a hay-tek.
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Re: Minimal resource hay tek + pics. [Re: ManicMongrel]
#14675338 - 06/26/11 02:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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ManicMongrel said: Nice effort!
Sure the bulk couldn't use a little coffee grounds? I had a little potency loss because of low phosphate and nitrogen levels on a hay-tek.
how do you figure it takes phosphate and nitrogen for potent cubes?
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