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Invisibleafoaf
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ammonia aroma worsening
    #1467012 - 04/17/03 01:17 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

fresh poop was shoveled and stored in a large
rubbermaid for a couple of months with the
lid on and off.

it never really dried satisfactorily this way, so
it was layed out (somewhat thinly) on a tarp
in the garage and left with the gentle breeze
of a box fan to further dehydrate for 4 days.

after this time it was dumped back into the
rubbermaid container and set aside for use.

afoaf of afoaf went to go use this dried horse
manure and upon grabbing a couple of handfuls
was overwhelmed by the pungent odor of
ammonia...and I mean OVERCOME!

knocked down, gagging, struggling for air....

the odor, before drying, was nothing more than
the fresh, earthly smell of horse dirt.

my question, in so many words, is why?

did I store, dry or otherwise do something wrong?

was it a bad idea to let my cats use the rubbermaid
bin of horse shit as a litter box? :wink: 


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Re: ammonia aroma worsening [Re: afoaf]
    #1467946 - 04/17/03 06:26 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

sounds like it wasn't dry enough and started composting.


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Re: ammonia aroma worsening [Re: Raadt]
    #1468522 - 04/17/03 10:25 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

what produces ammonia during composting?

is it a side effect of the chemical changes
occuring in the pile or of some microorganisms?

TMC only says what to add to aid the breakdown
of ammonia (or ammonia producing agents).

I wonder if I've simply angered the gods...


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Re: ammonia aroma worsening [Re: afoaf]
    #1469111 - 04/18/03 02:33 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Ammonia (NH4) is produced when bacteria break down urea or protein and this is a part of the normal composting of manure. It sounds like the container was too air-tight. With a good supply of oxygen, the ammonia should continue to breakdown into nitrogen and water.


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Re: ammonia aroma worsening [Re: woodrow]
    #1469853 - 04/18/03 11:56 AM (14 years, 8 days ago)

thanks for the information!


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Re: ammonia aroma worsening [Re: afoaf]
    #1469987 - 04/18/03 12:33 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

:wink:


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