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kiki71195
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Bulk grow need some help
#14662488 - 06/23/11 09:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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so ive still been researching and i think i can do the bulk grow i have two 66 quart tubs coming in the mail. i dont wanna buy the "already sterilized" sub jars so i was a little curious how some people go about nocking up there jars, does anybody have a method thats worked almost every time'/? once my jars are fully colonized were should i mix my spawn and bulk sub
should i get a bowl and mix them together orr.. im just curious on that one becuase i dont wanna get anything contaminated
i also wanted a few tips how to start the tub. i wanted to use a tac to put wholes in it for air circualation becuae there smaller so itll keep humidity in.(less chance at contamination also) im deciding if i should line the bottoms with garbage bag or not help i wanna no what else im missing
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14662512 - 06/23/11 09:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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what bulk tek uses a tac to poke holes in the tub? Those holes would be small even for a SGFC, which you shouldn't be making. Look up some info on monotubs.
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look through my grow log in my signature. it might give you some good ideas.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14662903 - 06/23/11 11:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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and here's some signature links you might find useful.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Primal Call]
#14664155 - 06/24/11 07:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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smaller holes let less air in.
If your doing bulk then follow a monotub tek. they use a few large holes stuffed with polyfill. the large hole allows for good FAE and the polyfill helps keep humidity in. You need to think differently, you want air to come in, and thats whats going to lower humidity, not it escaping. Getting air in is the purpose of the holes. Make them smaller, or tape them up, air doesnt get it, and fae is very important.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: veda_sticks]
#14664875 - 06/24/11 11:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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alright thanks for correcting me guys im glad im finding this all out before i start so i know exactly what im doing when i start
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14665008 - 06/24/11 11:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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ajaxx i looked at ur log very impressive could u tell me how u went about creating ur lids for spawn jars
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14665032 - 06/24/11 11:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14665071 - 06/24/11 11:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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kiki71195 said: ajaxx i looked at ur log very impressive could u tell me how u went about creating ur lids for spawn jars
i drilled a 3/8" hole in the lids. be careful cause i sliced the shit out of my index finger while holding it down. i use my feet with shoes on to hold them in place while drilling...
but drill the hole, then use some needle nose pliers or something to stick in the hole to smooth out the sharp edge you created when you drilled the hole.
take some polyfil, and very loosely stuff it into the lid. you dont want it too tight, and not too loose. just play with it and youll figure it out.
you want it loose enough to be able to stick the needle through it.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Ajaxx]
#14667136 - 06/24/11 07:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh and btw im sterilizing my grain spawn with a microwave method.. its the only one that ive found on shroomery i think.. and it confuses me why no one else has tried it but i am going to give it a try because im confident it will work here a link to the sterilization tech.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1457095
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667137 - 06/24/11 07:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667159 - 06/24/11 07:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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dude its gonna fail if you try to sterilize grains in the micro .look up doc's wbs tek in my fav links all the info you ever need is in there. you will have all most a 100 percent failure rate doing that trust me
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
#14667240 - 06/24/11 07:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i will listen to u guys but idk why those guys said it was working for them almost everytime did your read how they were going about doing it.?
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667249 - 06/24/11 07:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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sometime you get lucky and try to find as many grow with a micro than a pc that where a success
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
#14667375 - 06/24/11 07:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like a little more "research" is needed......... Look up WBS teks, good teks, bad teks, any and all information is viable... read until your eyes cramp!
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And doc's WBS tek was my springboard into bulk growing...
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wasting_space said: And doc's WBS tek was my springboard into bulk growing...
me to easy to follow and follow it to a t
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
#14667511 - 06/24/11 08:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have looked at ones very similar and they are not hard for me to understand at all, just the fact of the matter is i dont have a pressure cooker.. it wont be the hardest thing for me to get eather mabe a week tops.. but im just curious if what these guys are saying in that thread i posted is true.. they werent posting as in they were gunna try it.. they said the micro. method they have been using over and over.. if u didnt read it give it a go and tell me what you think
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667532 - 06/24/11 08:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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not worth the time and wbs when I got A pc
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
#14667596 - 06/24/11 08:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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not worth the time to read the thread?
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667655 - 06/24/11 08:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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not worth the time to read..........microwave is for leftovers... if you want to do grains ....get a pc
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: penhed]
#14667682 - 06/24/11 08:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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its up to you do what you want to do we are trying to help you can steam sterilize jars for the pf tek but grains require higher temps and a good soak so all the nasties will germinate and then the pc will kill them but you can lead a cow to water but you can't make it drink
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: penhed]
#14667705 - 06/24/11 08:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think your being sarcastic... but they were using popcorn as the grain spawn.. you use the microwave and vegetible steamer.. they said it worked and gave a nice desricption.. i am going to try it i am also gunna get a pc before i try this but if it works thats gunna be funny that a total noob showed u up
JUST READ THE GOD DAM THREAD FOR CHRIST SAKE itl take 10 min
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667709 - 06/24/11 09:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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and yes you have to soak the grain spawn in that tek for 24 + hours
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667776 - 06/24/11 09:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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it would be funny....and yes i'm a smart ass...but i'll would still help you or any one grow... if you want to try the way i do things or tell you that it's not a good idea...save yourself the time wasted....you can check out some of my grows in my gallery. i started in dec. ...listened to a few folks whom i liked the way they cultivated.....and found my own style
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667784 - 06/24/11 09:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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you asked for help many experienced people on here tryed to help if you succeed good for you but your odds are stacked against you good luck keep us posted I got to see this
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
#14667829 - 06/24/11 09:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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this was the procedure
Re: Grain without pressure cooker Tec. [Re: simplemachine] #4207019 - 05/22/05 05:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) Reply Quote
it's really very simple. soak the grain 24 so endo-spores germinate. rinse well. then use a Pyrex bowl with a lid to nuke it 5 min. give a stir, and nuke it another 5. rinse again, and nuke again if you like. then drain to field capacity, and load grain into jars. put jars in a steamer and cook for 90 min.
i still use this method for doing large amounts of grain cuz my dinkie little pc won't hold qt. jars.
if hes telling the truth who knows but ill be truthful if i fuck up or not haha
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14667850 - 06/24/11 09:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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why even ask questions if you got it all figured out when i first started I listened to people on here your gonna do what you gonna do any way we tryed i hope you prove use wrong
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
#14667877 - 06/24/11 09:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i wasnt really trying to prove you wrong i just wanted you guys to read the the thread i posted becuase the guys seemed like they knew what they were talking about, im still going to buy a pc becuase if how cheep they are at walmart
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14669701 - 06/25/11 09:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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i got a question , i no grains are the best for your bulk spawn, but why cant you use brf and verm in a 1 quart jar let it colonize and then use that as your spawn to add to ur bulk sub.. i think its becasue the brf /verm would prolly be pretty dry at that point thats why you use perilite with the pf tek mostly but if you used the right casing layer i think things could go right.. tell me what u think it was a though
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14670406 - 06/25/11 01:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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just go by the teks in my fav's and do alot of reading also UTSF it will answer any question you have most of your questions have been asked a thousand times
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
#14670423 - 06/25/11 01:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You could use brf+verm jars. But it takes a lot more jars and it colonizes slower in the jar. Also breaking up that many cakes would not only be very tedious and time consuming but would cause an awful lot of bruising and recovery time. Its definitely feasible and has been done. Most Teks are made to be simple. And people love simple. Grains are just easier
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Wing]
#14670553 - 06/25/11 01:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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when you line your tub with the bag why does it have to be black?
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14670571 - 06/25/11 01:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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To keep light from getting to the sides of the bulk substrate and causing side pinning. It also pulls away from the sides of the tub so that when water runs down the sides of the tub due to humidity and misting, it won't pool on the top of the substrate. when the substrate consolidates and shrinks it draws the bag away from the wall with it.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Wing]
#14670632 - 06/25/11 02:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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hmm all i have is white bags though is it worth it to go get the black ones?
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14670666 - 06/25/11 02:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you're worried about sides pins then yea I guess it is worth it. If not then fuck it!
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Wing]
#14670971 - 06/25/11 03:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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side pinning is the SHIT
i dont see why people think its a problem. ill never put another trash bag in my tub ever again. bad idea.
it made water build up underneath the bag. thats prime spot for bacteria or mold to start growing. if you dont use a bag and just tape the sides, the substrate soaks up any and all water thats in the bottom.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Ajaxx]
#14671085 - 06/25/11 03:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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hmm alright screw the bag , but what do you mean if i dont use the bag tape the sides? i also heard if and when you case your sub you make the perimiter a bit thicker then the the rest of the casing and that prevents side pinning but.. if side pinning is the shit ha screw it
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14671093 - 06/25/11 03:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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and who knew RTV high temp sealent was so expensive $50.00 for a small tube.. WTF
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14671142 - 06/25/11 04:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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No way dude. A few bucks. Go to your nearest automotive store.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Ajaxx]
#14671178 - 06/25/11 04:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Luger0815]
#14672262 - 06/25/11 08:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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and ask for rtv sealent?? i found it on homedepots site but it was 50 bux.. thats some bs
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14672275 - 06/25/11 08:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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you use tinfoil to line your tub? does it work good
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14672324 - 06/25/11 09:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just look on the shelf
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Luger0815]
#14672417 - 06/25/11 09:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: side pinning is the SHIT
i dont see why people think its a problem. ill never put another trash bag in my tub ever again. bad idea.
it made water build up underneath the bag. thats prime spot for bacteria or mold to start growing. if you dont use a bag and just tape the sides, the substrate soaks up any and all water thats in the bottom.
Lining foils are the shit....  
dude, imagine the entire top and all 4 sides covered in mushrooms. whats the problem there?!?! NOTHING!!! lol
side pinning is fuckin awesome. i pulled 4 dry ounces from side pinnings alone in one tub.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Ajaxx]
#14672455 - 06/25/11 09:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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here's the thing. Water boils at 220f, at sea level. No matter how much heat you apply, water will not get hotter than that, it just boils harder Well, did you know if you increase the air pressure, the boiling point of water goes up? At 15 psi the B point is 250f You can not reach that temperature without raising the pressure, but you need that temp. to kill endospores on the grain
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: SomeGuy]
#14672508 - 06/25/11 09:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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luger u said lining foils are the shit what exactly is that im assuming instead of trash bag lining out of aluminum foil??? get back to me on that one
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: SomeGuy]
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paducahovoids said: here's the thing. Water boils at 220f, at sea level. No matter how much heat you apply, water will not get hotter than that, it just boils harder Well, did you know if you increase the air pressure, the boiling point of water goes up? At 15 psi the B point is 250f You can not reach that temperature without raising the pressure, but you need that temp. to kill endospores on the grain
how is what you just said supposed to relate to side pinning?!
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Luger0815]
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u said lining foils are the shit tho..? but there not ha?
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Ajaxx]
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paducahovoids said: here's the thing. Water boils at 220f, at sea level. No matter how much heat you apply, water will not get hotter than that, it just boils harder Well, did you know if you increase the air pressure, the boiling point of water goes up? At 15 psi the B point is 250f You can not reach that temperature without raising the pressure, but you need that temp. to kill endospores on the grain
how is what you just said supposed to relate to side pinning?!
It only relates to why OP shouldn't attempt to microwave his grain. I was drunk last night and my typing was too slow, so by the time I got it typed out, you all had changed the topic
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: SomeGuy]
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ahh lol word. happens to me sometimes too.
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nobdy answered me about the god dam foil>:P
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
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the myc eats the foil every time I tryed doing trays before the first flush it has like holes all in it
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
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I use foil pans and I set my cakes/bulk on foil, and I've never had the myc. eat through it.....ever. That doesn't mean it can't, just never has
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: SomeGuy]
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I've had the myc eat through the foil pan every time i used them for bulk.
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im buying a pc today, im getting a 4qt for 35 bux.. im satisfied how many qt jars do u think that will hold?
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i no that wont hold much but it will do the job and ill just prepare all the lids before all of that.. no jackass'in around,
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ive never had myc eat through foil before the first flush was ready for harvest, but other grows say theirs eats through foil WICKED fast.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: k00laid]
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got syringes from et today.. shipping was pretty quick but took them like 3 to 4 days to even process the order.. id say skip on that site.. unreliable.. and one of the syringes had a the tinyest leak.. so i tapes up both were i though there would be and put them in new bags with a bunch of paper bags around it so no one cud see what it was when its in the fridge
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
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Where did u get the spores?
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Ajaxx]
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Take two same tubs without the lid and stack them vertically (top one upside-down on the bottom one right-side-up) so they are double height.
Take your spawn and put it in a ziplock bag with sterilized spoon and break into about 1/2"-1" balls (i think they kinda look like mini wheats)
Then lay a half inch of verm on the bottom of my tub and moist it with a spray bottle of sterilized water and then lay about a good inch of crumbled cake evenly and flat right over that moist verm and then a half and inch or so of your casing.
I didnt always have special casing material to use, so i'd just use plain verm all in and out of the thing.
I think this is easier to start off but in the long run can be a bitch cause you'd have to fan a few times thru-out the day, but I've had amazing results with it.
Mono-Tubs i feel are less of a bitch to upkeep, im just lazy to make alterations to em plus i only have 2 fair sized mono tubs compaired to a good 20 mini 5 quart tubs
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: DourSiezel]
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im a little confused with the tubs thing.. and i got them from earths tougne and ajaxx is that procedure for using brk cakes crumbeled? because now that i got a 4qt pc(mad small) but w.e im gunna spawn with grain
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well i got RTV gasket sealent but its not high temp so i dont think it could go in the pressure cooker which means ill have to make the self healing injector port after steriliziation is that ok?
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i use regular bathroom grade silicone for my injector ports.
make sure it cures for 24 hours before pressure cooking.
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make sure it cures for 24 hours before pressure cooking.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
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that microwave thread was from 2003!!!
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k thanks guys,, and i no it was from 2003 doesnt mean people couldnt of had sucess with it does it?
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14690837 - 06/29/11 09:33 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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how long do you pressure cooke your jars for becuase i no im going to have to wait a bit longer then some folks becuae of the size of my pc and the pressure lvl
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
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kiki71195 said: how long do you pressure cooke your jars for becuase i no im going to have to wait a bit longer then some folks becuae of the size of my pc and the pressure lvl
90min timer set once PSI reaches 15
Don't let impatience ruin you early... you'll have to wait for the PC to cool down, and the jars to cool after that before you can inoculate. It's best to let them cool inside the PC and inoculate right after removing.
Get a bigger PC IMO. The presto for some 80-90$ is well worth it until you can afford an AA
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Primal Call]
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keep us posted with results after you get em to start colonizing!
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
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kiki71195 said: k thanks guys,, and i no it was from 2003 doesnt mean people couldnt of had sucess with it does it?
people thought 50% success rates were good in 2003.
we dont do that nowadays.
we dont fail nowadays.
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thanks ryath but im pretty sure since my pc is a 4 qt its gunna be like 10 psi u no so does that mean im gunna have to wait even longer to sterilize?
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
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alright well i just prepared part of my jar lids, i poked holes in the lids & put a nice fat dot for the self healing injector ports, now i am curious into what you guys think i should do should i you cotton bolls for my filter becuase thats all i have atm, get back to me about how i should make the filter and what size the hole should be as well many thanks.
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kiki71195 said: alright well i just prepared part of my jar lids, i poked holes in the lids & put a nice fat dot for the self healing injector ports, now i am curious into what you guys think i should do should i you cotton bolls for my filter becuase thats all i have atm, get back to me about how i should make the filter and what size the hole should be as well many thanks.
i use coffee filters, very cheap and quick n easy
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: DourSiezel]
#14697719 - 06/30/11 04:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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polyfill its cheap and easily to get its pillow stuffing cotton will cause contaims poly is not organic I use 1/4 inch holes and stuff with polyfill you should have done this before the PC and did you cover with foil
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
#14697747 - 06/30/11 04:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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here just follow this link I use it every time doc's wbs tek
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
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i hvaent even got my pressure cooker yet.. should arrive tommrow by ups, and yeah i did find polyfill in a torn blanket, all my jars are completely done.. i was gunna try to post a pic to show you guys but i didnt figure out how
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: gus330]
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i just notced im most likely screwed my pc is 4 qt and i have quart jars if the quart jars fit ill be happy...
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#14698848 - 06/30/11 08:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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actully i think ill fit two mabey.. but if so i wanna no what shud my game plan b for innoc, should i sterilize 2 , then while the next two are in pc innoc the first two i did? and then keep going like that.. i feel like thats a easy way to contam
or i could just sterilize by the 2 and when im done with every two put it in a brown shopping bag and then tommrow ill inoculate all of them i only say nexy day because thats like 6 hour of pressure cooking.. so
lemme no guys
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
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It'd be much more economical to PC them all then inoculate all at once. If your lids are proper and you sterilize adequately, contaminates are not a risk until you inoculate. Just leave the foil on the jars while they rest and you finish PC'ing.

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kiki71195 said: thanks ryath but im pretty sure since my pc is a 4 qt its gunna be like 10 psi u no so does that mean im gunna have to wait even longer to sterilize?
sorry... just saw this after back-reading a bit...
10 PSI is not enough to the best of my knowledge because you want to get the temperature up to 250F, which is only possible at higher pressure levels. I do remember reading of someone asking about being in your situation, though, and I think someone responded that PC'ing longer will solve the problem, but I cannot give too much assurance on this one. Best thing you can do is get a better PC with more room and a PSI gauge. Send the 4qt back IMO, and here.
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: Primal Call]
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yeah i went a little too cheep on that one.. but its because i dont have any do this summer.. how long do u pressure cook ur jars for> ill go from there add on atleast 20 to 30 more min lol
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
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hey guys does it matter if i soak the popcorn for 12 hours after the annitial 24 hours? becuase i already put a bag in and i need to get another bag , so the first bag would of been in there 12 hours longer, is that okayy?
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kiki71195 said: how long do you pressure cooke your jars for becuase i no im going to have to wait a bit longer then some folks becuae of the size of my pc and the pressure lvl
90min timer set once PSI reaches 15
Don't let impatience ruin you early... you'll have to wait for the PC to cool down, and the jars to cool after that before you can inoculate. It's best to let them cool inside the PC and inoculate right after removing.
Get a bigger PC IMO. The presto for some 80-90$ is well worth it until you can afford an AA


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kiki71195 said: hey guys does it matter if i soak the popcorn for 12 hours after the annitial 24 hours? becuase i already put a bag in and i need to get another bag , so the first bag would of been in there 12 hours longer, is that okayy?
can't help much with popcorn as I've never used it, but 24 hours is the "normal" maximum soak time for rye/wheat/wbs. I thought people stopped using corn? 
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Re: Bulk grow need some help [Re: kiki71195]
#14703745 - 07/01/11 08:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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well im soakin my popcorn (spawn) for over 24 hours.. i figured im just gunna pc each jar 2 hours each.. atleast ill no there fully sterilized
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