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Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS
    #14655961 - 06/22/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, ventured out into a local park today to find a wonderful abundance of subs, and lopsies.  Well let's get to business.  I identified some paneolopsis with some I'm am unsure about.  I'm still a little lost when it comes to differentiating subs and foes, so maybe yalll can help me out.

suspected subs:


Probably a mix of subs and foes:


Possible Panaeolopsis:

My forsure panaeolopsis findings:


Unknown pair stuck together at the base:


And the mush pot:

The mush pot are basicly mushrooms that are getting quite dark and losing their resiliance.  Are these still safe to be eaten if identified active?

All the mushrooms are pretty dry, as their hasn't been much rain lately.  As for the subs and foes, what are some of the traits you guys are looking for in the pics?  I do know some of the basic ways to ID sub, but i'm not very confident.

All shrooms were found on grass like so:

Thanks for your time :smile:

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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: iDmt]
    #14656003 - 06/22/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

spore print them to make sure.

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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: Lernx]
    #14656020 - 06/22/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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spore print them to make sure.



Nah, this is more of a practice run, I just want to see what you guys think on how I seperated and some good signs to look for to tell the difference.  Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm sure the guys who know what they're doing when they hunt can tell without spore printing.

I'm just gonna chow on the identified panaeolopsis

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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: iDmt]
    #14656023 - 06/22/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Lernx said:
spore print them to make sure.



Nah, this is more of a practice run, I just want to see what you guys think on how I seperated and some good signs to look for to tell the difference.  Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm sure the guys who know what they're doing when they hunt can tell without spore printing.

I'm just gonna chow on the identified panaeolopsis




I'd call the "iffy Panaelopsis" Panaeolus cinctulus or P. foenisecii

EDIT: Also, nice organization; I know that takes some effort.


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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14656049 - 06/22/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks.  I am going to spore print the suspected subs.  If they turn out to be subs, could I mix those in with the panaeolopsis tea i'm going to make?

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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: iDmt]
    #14656055 - 06/22/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks.  I am going to spore print the suspected subs.  If they turn out to be subs, could I mix those in with the panaeolopsis tea i'm going to make?





:billymaythumbup: It would be most advisable to do so. Consume as many as possible.


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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14656148 - 06/22/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Okay, thanks.  So what do you guys think about the mush pot? Should I throw away?

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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: iDmt]
    #14656296 - 06/22/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You went thru the trouble of organizing why not print to make sure the are active, why take a mushroom placebo? Just consume the ones that are GOOD, is that not why u hunt? Why not just eat any unknown? :confused:


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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PIC [Re: divo]
    #14656324 - 06/22/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

True, im printing. Do you guys think all the panalopsis and like 10 medium size subs will be a pretty heavy dose? I don't want to over do it

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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: divo]
    #14656336 - 06/22/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You went thru the trouble of organizing why not print to make sure the are active, why take a mushroom placebo? Just consume the ones that are GOOD, is that not why u hunt? Why not just eat any unknown? :confused:




Nah. Actually it makes more sense to consume all of them. Even if they're foes, they aren't deadly poisonous. It's not like eating a couple foes with your subbs/Panaeolopsis is going to invalidate all of the psilocybin you consumed in the known samples. I say eat every one that isn't rotten.

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divo said:
Why not just eat any unknown? :confused:




Wtf??? That doesn't even make sense given the logic you provided.

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True, im printing. Do you guys think all the panalopsis and like 10 medium size subs will be a pretty heavy dose? I don't want to over do it





Subbs and Panaelopsis are rather weak. To be honest, I say eat no less than 40.

EDIT: Treat Panaelopsis like cinctulus and use the dosage calculator and let us know how it goes.

http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator


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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14656412 - 06/22/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Okay thanks.  Sorry for the dumb question, but what exactly is rotting, like I know what it is, but when do you begin to consider it to be rotting?

i.e. I have a definite sub that is dark, and a little bit soggy, but smells fine. is this considered rotting?

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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14656639 - 06/22/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

divo said:
You went thru the trouble of organizing why not print to make sure the are active, why take a mushroom placebo? Just consume the ones that are GOOD, is that not why u hunt? Why not just eat any unknown? :confused:




Nah. Actually it makes more sense to consume all of them. Even if they're foes, they aren't deadly poisonous. It's not like eating a couple foes with your subbs/Panaeolopsis is going to invalidate all of the psilocybin you consumed in the known samples. I say eat every one that isn't rotten. PS ur an A$$

Quote:

divo said:
Why not just eat any unknown? :confused:




Wtf??? That doesn't even make sense given the logic you provided.

Quote:

iDmt said:
True, im printing. Do you guys think all the panalopsis and like 10 medium size subs will be a pretty heavy dose? I don't want to over do it





Subbs and Panaelopsis are rather weak. To be honest, I say eat no less than 40.

EDIT: Treat Panaelopsis like cinctulus and use the dosage calculator and let us know how it goes.

http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator



Its a waste to eat what will not provide whats needed. If your looking to get drunk why drink Odoles, sure its beer, however you'll never achieve your true intentions.


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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: iDmt]
    #14657227 - 06/22/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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divo said:
Quote:

Ieponumos said:
Quote:

divo said:
You went thru the trouble of organizing why not print to make sure the are active, why take a mushroom placebo? Just consume the ones that are GOOD, is that not why u hunt? Why not just eat any unknown? :confused:




Nah. Actually it makes more sense to consume all of them. Even if they're foes, they aren't deadly poisonous. It's not like eating a couple foes with your subbs/Panaeolopsis is going to invalidate all of the psilocybin you consumed in the known samples. I say eat every one that isn't rotten.

Quote:

divo said:
Why not just eat any unknown? :confused:




Wtf??? That doesn't even make sense given the logic you provided.

Quote:

iDmt said:
True, im printing. Do you guys think all the panalopsis and like 10 medium size subs will be a pretty heavy dose? I don't want to over do it





Subbs and Panaelopsis are rather weak. To be honest, I say eat no less than 40.

EDIT: Treat Panaelopsis like cinctulus and use the dosage calculator and let us know how it goes.

http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator



Its a waste to eat what will not provide whats needed. If your looking to get drunk why drink Odoles, sure its beer, however you'll never achieve your true intentions. PS ur an A$$




I don't even see what the big deal is. Nor do I see how your point is valid. It's not like iDmt is consuming nothing but foes as then your argument would be valid. But, I don't see how some foes being in the mix really does anything either way.

To use your analogy it's like iDmt is buying a 12 pack of lager in which two cans of O'Doule's were accidentally placed. Other than wanting a refund for the 1/1,000,000 error, iDmt would still be able to drink the other 10 cans and get the desired effect.

But the only error in your analogy is the possibility of those "O'Doule's" actually containing the desired substance. Those foes might, in actuality, be subbs and therefore would push one towards a desired effect. In this it seems there is only to gain, nothing to lose. I say drink!!!

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Okay thanks.  Sorry for the dumb question, but what exactly is rotting, like I know what it is, but when do you begin to consider it to be rotting?

i.e. I have a definite sub that is dark, and a little bit soggy, but smells fine. is this considered rotting?




I wouldn't think so. Rotten fungi are maggot and springtail filled, are rather mushy (like rotten fruit), and smell like ass. Bugs are the first indicator of rottenness IME. You'd know. I say follow your nose.

Also, making a tea might not be a bad idea. And drying them first also would help you.


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Re: Friends, foes, and paneolopsis. Need IDs *PICS [Re: iDmt]
    #14657411 - 06/22/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't even see what the big deal is. Nor do I see how your point is valid. It's not like iDmt is consuming nothing but foes as then your argument would be valid. But, I don't see how some foes being in the mix really does anything either way.

To use your analogy it's like iDmt is buying a 12 pack of lager in which two cans of O'Doule's were accidentally placed. Other than wanting a refund for the 1/1,000,000 error, iDmt would still be able to drink the other 10 cans and get the desired effect.

But the only error in your analogy is the possibility of those "O'Doule's" actually containing the desired substance. Those foes might, in actuality, be subbs and therefore would push one towards a desired effect. In this it seems there is only to gain, nothing to lose. I say drink!!!





Agreed,  i'm not going to consume any poisonous mushrooms, and its all in tea, so i'm not really ingesting anymore mass then I would of w/o the sub/foe mix.

Dosing 30-40g fresh made into tea in about ten minutes

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