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Re: Learning to program [Re: imachavel]
    #14658035 - 06/23/11 05:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I want to learn programming as well, and realize that I know NOTHING about this stuff. I should have taken a class on it, oh well




I assume you mean software programming versus the actual programming of hardware.

Download the free version of Visual Basic and use some of the online tutorials or torrent a VB book pdf. It'll teach you the basics of syntax and the such. It'll also help you decide if programming is something youn would enjoy or not. I've known a lot of people who jumped right into C++/C# and gave up because they couldn't create anything or have a fun the first few weeks of learning. High level languages like Visual Basic ensure that you can make useful applications in a short amount of time and then learning C++ will allow you to both create solely in C++ and create libraries for use in VB to allow you to do things that aren't built into VB.

I started out on VB6 back in 1999, learned Delphi by 2001, and then C++ in 2002. Those 3 alone were enough for me to program nearly any type of software I wanted to. Wish I had to time to get back into the hobby but finishing college is my top priority at the moment.


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Re: Learning to program [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #14658055 - 06/23/11 05:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Arduino is a cool system, and you could use most any language.
But something C-like would be ideal.


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Re: Learning to program [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #14658083 - 06/23/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

> Download the free version of Visual Basic

Visual Basic is a waste of time and will be counterproductive to any long term interest you have in learning how to program.  Visual Basic is simple to learn, but teaches bad programming practices.


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Re: Learning to program [Re: Seuss]
    #14658096 - 06/23/11 06:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Agreed. Download a free version of Pascal, with tutorials, and work all through them. :yesnod:

Learning Pascal is like learning Latin, it's not really a "live" language, but it helps you learn other languages.
(Though there's plenty of useful things you can do with Pascal.)


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Re: Learning to program [Re: Doc_T]
    #14658101 - 06/23/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

VB worked for me. It kept me interested enough to take the time to learn C++. :shrug:

Though, Pascal is also a good start, IMO.

Python can be fun to learn too.


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Re: Learning to program [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #14659044 - 06/23/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

where does xampp fit between all these visual basic and pascal type programming languages? xampp does my sql and php, those are all back end coding languages, and have nothing to do with what pascal or visual basic do right?


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Re: Learning to program [Re: imachavel]
    #14659263 - 06/23/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Right. But learning Pascal will help you write better sql or php.
So go ahead and get started with xamp or whatever sparks your interest, then dig deeper.


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Re: Learning to program [Re: Doc_T]
    #14659402 - 06/23/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

got you

besides I just installed visual basic on my pc with windows 7, and wtf I couldn't find it, I searched for vcr which seemed to be the name it was installed under, but it just kept asking me to repair. I'll uninstall it completely later, I have no idea why it didn't work.

to be honest windows 7 has some compatibility issues with certain things, it's not supposed to but it does. I have no idea why they came out with windows vista then right afterwards came out with windows 7. almost like they were competing with themself


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Re: Learning to program [Re: John]
    #14660581 - 06/23/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Python or Java are both good languages to learn (object oriented) programming imo. C++ is much easier and less scary if you start with Java. You can start with C++, but it may scare you off. 

I like Eclipse as Java IDE and Qt Creator for C++. I actually love Qt Creator! It even has Vim editor mode.

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Re: Learning to program [Re: Annom]
    #14662049 - 06/23/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yah these Stanford and MIT professors I'm watching are all plugging Python as such an amazing language. After I feel like I fully understand C I'll probably move on to that. Well actually some of the vids I'm watching are already teaching me python. Like you guys said language doesn't really seem to matter. It's mostly the same stuff with a little different syntax.

Already made so much money from programming. Usually I'd come home and get high right away, now I learn for a good 4 hours then get baked :lol:


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Re: Learning to program [Re: imachavel]
    #14665531 - 06/24/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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imachavel said:
to be honest windows 7 has some compatibility issues with certain things, it's not supposed to but it does. I have no idea why they came out with windows vista then right afterwards came out with windows 7. almost like they were competing with themself




Windows 7 came out so fast because M$ wanted to fix all of the problems with Vista, which had a lot of problems. Instead of giving us some type of upgrade for the shitty Vista OS, they decided to make everyone pay for M$'s own mistakes.

Here's the link to the free version of M$ Studio Express 2010 (VB,C++,C# all in one) : MS Studio 2010 


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