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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14644948 - 06/20/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

While we're quoting bible verses...

Markos said:
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Want to minimize your egoic-mind? Maximize your inner child.




Matthew 18:3 "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

I don't really understand how it all fits together yet, but JC was on to the truth there IMO.

Of course what "heaven" is remains open to interpretation.  Surely not pearly gates and golden streets. :lol:


Edited by Cups (06/20/11 08:13 PM)

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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14644967 - 06/20/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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DZ74 said:
But how do I change the way I think I guess? That's where my problem lies







Mark 12:30-31
New International Version (NIV)
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.

"Love everybody, serve everybody, and remember God."
- Neem Karoli Baba

How many times does one have to hear this message before one has ears to really hear it? If you love people, you don't have to be emotionally attached, you simply will what is good for another, even at your own expense. This is Compassion and it require Detachment and Dispassion. Meanwhile, you acquire balance in your discipline so that others do not take advantage of you.  You don't want to develop co-dependency - always putting others before yourself so that your own needs go unmet. This is not being a martyr, it is pathology: Dependent Personality Disorder. Be as kind to yourself as you are to others, and vice-versa.

"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

Chemically sledge-hammering one's brain is more likely a matter of self-destructiveness than of true Initiation. I've used psychedelics for 40 years, and everyone I know or knew who tripped abandoned their use long ago, and became caught up in the mundanities of everyday life. The guys won't do it for a variety of reasons, mostly I think because they are so encrusted with worldly concerns like college funds for their kids, sports interests, or vices like tobacco and alcohol, that nothing psychedelic remains of them except distant memories. And, several are either pussy-whipped or use their wives as excuses for not tripping. This is because they couldn't integrate family life into a wider context of spiritual life. Or, they failed to identify Psychedelic Experience as real religious experience, and got into their traditional family's religion instead. Religion is a sure way to prevent real religious experience. Perhaps, they married women who embodied their mother's values instead of seeking a more evolved woman. My generation didn't maintain much of the Child of God characteristics from the 60s. Just another  generation of biological beings engaged in established social games - just like their parents' generation.  Curiosity and wonder are gone with their inner child. The egoic-mind is what most people all-to-willfully become, especially the materialistic, status-seeking multitudes.

Want to minimize your egoic-mind? Maximize your inner child. Don't forget how to play, imagine, create, dream. Don't become so practical and down-to-earth that you permanently have your wings clipped. Read Tolle's The Power of Now, because Chapter 2 - The Pain Body - should speak to you.




:thumbup: good advice

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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: Cups]
    #14645159 - 06/20/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Cups said:
While we're quoting bible verses...

Markos said:
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Want to minimize your egoic-mind? Maximize your inner child.




Matthew 18:3 "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

I don't really understand how it all fits together yet, but JC was on to the truth there IMO.

Of course what "heaven" is remains open to interpretation.  Surely not pearly gates and golden streets. :lol:






I agree with this, and this:

Want to minimize your egoic-mind? Maximize your inner child. Don't forget how to play, imagine, create, dream. Don't become so practical and down-to-earth that you permanently have your wings clipped. Read Tolle's The Power of Now, because Chapter 2 - The Pain Body - should speak to you.

100% :thumbup:


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14646811 - 06/21/11 04:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Some really nice words in here. :flowers:

I'm going through a similar condition as the OP at the minute. I keep blaming it on a undiagnosed problem (bi polar or something - just an excuse), but won't help myself when I know it's the thing to do. Keep running away from what essentially is nothing or something massive "I'm" creating. Don't know if it's boredom or what, but everytime there is a space I fill it.

Anyways, just a quick thanks to this thread :sun:


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: Cups]
    #14648822 - 06/21/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Cups said:
While we're quoting bible verses...

Markos said:
Quote:

Want to minimize your egoic-mind? Maximize your inner child.




Matthew 18:3 "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

I don't really understand how it all fits together yet, but JC was on to the truth there IMO.

Of course what "heaven" is remains open to interpretation.  Surely not pearly gates and golden streets. :lol:






Yeah Cups, I was gonna throw that in too, but I thought, enough already. So thanks for the completion.


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14650197 - 06/21/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The problem is I'm a really creative deep introspective individual, I love art and music. It's just that, I'm surrounded by a bunch of egotistic idiots who don't understand me or my dreams.I get really insecure cus of it.
Even my own family doesn't really support my ideas or my dreams and say I should think realistically, get myself a normal 9 to 5 job like everyone else.
Nobody takes me seriously. They say take a bunch of SSRI's and pretend to be happy.
I don't want to compromise!


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: DZ74]
    #14650227 - 06/21/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The problem is I'm a really creative deep introspective individual

Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody understands me either. :hissyfit:


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #14650390 - 06/21/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
how do you stop smoking?

to stop ego, just quit the melodrama.
stop pretending that it's an epic movie or legend that you are a role in.
stop thinking your role sucks.
no melodramatic bullshit.

and relax and keep on relaxing and starting again.
discontinuing melodrama can take a long time,
continue tomorrow.




if i knew how to put the clapping hands here i would. well fucking said rgv just stop, what keeps one from quitting smoking or ending the show "me and my life" is just the self talk. its all about following through, make a choice and follow through no matter what the self talk is. make the decision and with that decision is the decision to ignore all other self talk pertaining to it, dont even entertain it.

this total follow through is alien to a lot of us so its good to practise with meditation. in meditation you notice your thoughts more so you can learn to ignore them in a relaxed way. its funny to realize the limitations we put on ourselves because they are almost all self inflicted. i know it's cliche but "i cant" and any of its synonyms are the death of freedom.

killing the ego is tricky though, you can hack off the trunk, but if you think the trunk is the root it will just grow back. the root of the ego is the part that wants to kill the ego. it is "the story of me and my life" i want to kill the ego so my life will be better. you gotta cut out the root too though which is this idea of a me who has a life.

that being said, do you still wanna kill your ego? probably not, after all thats the goal of life isnt it, to have a good life? or is it?

ive found a happy medium, i recognize the ego as a dream and can enjoy it as such. this isnt just wordplay or idealistic thinking, i have totally drawn the line between fantasy(thinking) and reality(sensory experience) and reality is what i now identify with. some people find they have to go to the extreme first to get to this point and i suppose i did to an extent. this means to completely discard the story until it is no longer taken as reality. the tricky part about doing this is that the thought "but i need to plan my life and the story is necessarry" once you get past that things start to change!

good luck brotha


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: DZ74]
    #14650418 - 06/21/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The problem is I'm a really creative deep introspective individual, I love art and music. It's just that, I'm surrounded by a bunch of egotistic idiots




:rolleyes:


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14650467 - 06/21/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The "I" is just a thought... try to understand that and maybe your problems will go away.


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: circastes]
    #14650489 - 06/21/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Your problems are just thoughts too, why not cut out the middleman?

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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: DZ74]
    #14650682 - 06/21/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The problem is I'm a really creative deep introspective individual, I love art and music. It's just that, I'm surrounded by a bunch of egotistic idiots who don't understand me or my dreams.I get really insecure cus of it.
Even my own family doesn't really support my ideas or my dreams and say I should think realistically, get myself a normal 9 to 5 job like everyone else.
Nobody takes me seriously. They say take a bunch of SSRI's and pretend to be happy.
I don't want to compromise!




When I returned to my college after having taken a semester off, and I told a philosophy professor that I wanted to change my major from pre-med to philosophy, he said: "You're gonna starve man!" Well, had I not compromised, he would have been right. Because I decided that I was not going to become a Ph.D. in philosophy, and have to continually look for new teaching posts around the country. I am a home body, and I wanted a place to dig in, decorate, plant, and create a stable place to trip-and-be. So, I spent a couple of years after undergraduate school living again with my parents while attending a theological seminary. My supplies of acid, hashish, and free pussy was now gone. I was hiding out from the world, avoided carrying on, from deciding what field I could be relatively happy working in. You see, nobody was gonna support me while I dropped acid, got ecstatic from reading high-level philosophy and theology, which I felt was my personal right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Post-college females are women, not girls, and didn't think my late 70s trip was very cool either. I think I was kinda like you are now. Growing up isn't easy, but, to use a  surfing metaphor, it is better to get a paddling run on the crest of a wave, than to get hammered by a wave while you're sitting dead in the water. Get going! :boot:


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14650703 - 06/21/11 08:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How's the surfing down there in Florida?


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Re: How cna I kill my ego? [Re: Icelander]
    #14652071 - 06/22/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea, I need to get myself together. I try meditation but I can't focus or stay still long enough unless I smoke some weed  (which I had soem crazy experiences but thats another thread) but lately my pockets been on broke.
I do music and stuff but lately I been feeling uninspired and unmotivated.

@ I know I use "I" alot and I know I am the root of my very own problems first and for all which I take responsibility for. I wish I could change it all and I know I can it's so simple but yet the simplest things gotta be the most difficult in my overworked pessimistic mind. It's like I feed off it. AAAAAH Maybe I'm crazy jo!


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