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My San Pedros - New pups
    #14573536 - 06/07/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I bought my first San Pedro yesterday from a local home improvement store.  This was the first time I've seen them available, so I grabbed it without hesitation.

It has some marks on it, that even after using the search function, I am still unsure about.  Can any of you more experienced cacti gardeners help me out? 


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: grainbrain]
    #14573666 - 06/07/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Just scars. I see 'em on every Pedro I have.


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: grainbrain]
    #14574458 - 06/07/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Those look like non-PC pachanoi. I've never seen those in any US home improvement store yet. Nice find!

It's just scarring nothing to worry about.


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: naum]
    #14574521 - 06/07/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I agree about non-PC pachanoi, it's a bit hard to tell though, but definitely a pachanoi


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: jds]
    #14574882 - 06/07/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the info.  I thought it looked more bumpy than the images of the PC variety found online, but I am totally new to ethnobotanical cacti.  Will try to get some better images in the next few days.


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: grainbrain]
    #14574903 - 06/07/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks for the info.  I thought it looked more bumpy than the images of the PC variety found online, but I am totally new to ethnobotanical cacti.  Will try to get some better images in the next few days.




Actually, upon looking the spines are longer than the Backeberg variety. You may have an interesting Pedro in your collection.


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14619648 - 06/15/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm going to repot these Pedros into clay and was curious if you guys would recommend separating them or leaving the pair as is?


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: grainbrain]
    #14620828 - 06/16/11 02:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would separate them if possible.

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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: Oboy]
    #14621719 - 06/16/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, Oboy.  I'll give it a shot.

Here's a couple outdoor photos to better show the spines.  I've been pouring over Trout's book, but still couldn't narrow it down any further.



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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: grainbrain]
    #14625578 - 06/16/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks, Oboy.  I'll give it a shot.

Here's a couple outdoor photos to better show the spines.  I've been pouring over Trout's book, but still couldn't narrow it down any further.






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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14625667 - 06/16/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The V-notches above the areoles (and to a lesser extent the spine length) suggest to me that your plants have some peruvianoid or macrogonoid (is that a word?) genetics.


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: wanderingmarlin]
    #14641425 - 06/20/11 05:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, wanderingmarlin.  I went out on the hunt this weekend and scored two more pots of varying San Pedros.

The one on the far left looks to be the same as my first purchase.  The guy next to it looks slightly more macrogonoid to my untrained eye.  The tip growth is less uniform than the others.

Am I correct that the two on the right are the Backeberg variety?



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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: grainbrain]
    #14641449 - 06/20/11 05:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Backeberg's clone & why it is mythology
Pachanoi or pachanot ?
pachanoi in Peru

The info on these pages will help to add to the confusion :lol: lovely pics too


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #14647459 - 06/21/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I grabbed two sets of these Pachonoi, one at Home depot, one at walmart almost a month ago. It seems like every store is carrying these exact genetics, because my Walmart, Home Depot, and Lowe's all carry that same stock. I think they were grown from seed though, because I also saw two monstrose cacti in a sea of typical looking ones.


I tried eating lots of it, because it was EVERYWHERE, and for $17 I got about 20 inches of that super thick Pedro. My conclusion is that even Backberg Pedros are stronger than this variety by a longshot, because 20 in. of it was about threshold effects, while with my backbergs 2 feet is an intensely enjoyable trip (skinny ones). I still pamper mine though, because although they aren't too edible, they are another very nice addition of trichocereus pachanoi.

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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: Mary Jayne]
    #14647682 - 06/21/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Those are scars from too much water.

Also they may have been fed industrial fertilizers or systemic pesticides so be careful.

I've heard some ppl say that they would only work with clones from the parent plant.  Either way, great find!


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: fireshaman]
    #14648161 - 06/21/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure the store bought ones aren't gonna be as potent because they're grown in better than ideal conditions. They're over watered, under stressed, and theyre generally in a peat based soil (if I'm not mistaken).


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: fngbronco]
    #14679213 - 06/27/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the info & links.  I'm more informed and more confused now than ever.  :crazy2:

I don't plan on eating any of these guys anytime soon, just going to enjoy the knowledge of my subversive gardening efforts.  I recently received a large number of various Trich and Loph seeds, so will be giving those a go later this summer.

More photos to follow once these Pedro mutts get transplanted and the others begin germination.


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: grainbrain]
    #14679676 - 06/27/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks for the info & links.  I'm more informed and more confused now than ever.  :crazy2:




Trichs are confusing, man. I try to get mine IDed, but I end up just calling them all mutts. Yours, however, seem like non-pc san pedro as naum already said.

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More photos to follow once these Pedro mutts get transplanted and the others begin germination.




Right on. And yes, your two on the right are what most call backberg, but had no relation to him supposidly so they've just been called pc or predominant cultivar. Those are really common, your non-pc are a rare find.

Forgot to mention, those aren't scale. Nomad is dead on.

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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: drift]
    #14731625 - 07/07/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Repotted all of my cacti today.  Soil mix was approximately 48% Miracle Grow Cactus/Palm/Citrus soil run through 1/4" wire mesh, 48% Perlite, 4% medium coarse sand.  Top dressed with aquarium gravel(white) or "natural sand" (pinkish).  I ran out before finishing those last two Pedros, so they will have to wait a couple of days.

Front row: Grandiflorious x 2, Pedro x 3, Grandiflorious w/pups
Back row: Cane Cholla x 2, Pedro x 3, Peruvianis KK242


A counter clockwise tour, starting with the little Grandiflorious.


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Re: San Pedro - Scale, Scars or ??? [Re: grainbrain]
    #14812329 - 07/23/11 06:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Two weeks after repotting, my PC Pachanois are etoliating:


And the pups on my Peruvianis are turning purple/black:


I moved the PC Pachanoi to a more sunny spot.  What is going on with my Peruvianis?  Should I cut those pups off, since the main stalk is ok?


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