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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14644748 - 06/20/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Neither do I.

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14644769 - 06/20/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Neither do I.




You either want the minimum wage to be raised or for your pay to go up, it seems to me that you do.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14644771 - 06/20/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nope you're wrong

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14644775 - 06/20/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





as someone who opposed to income tax; my question, to those who want the tax cuts to stay in place, is what evidence do you have that they have  been good for the american economy?



There were no tax cuts.  There were rate cuts.  Tax receipts rose.  Because the economic activity rose.

If you want to raise taxes and think it's such a good idea maybe you should go after the 50% of workers who pay none at all instead of fucking the people who already foot almost all of the bill.




Maybe if people got paid more they would pay taxes :wink:




So what was the point of that post?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14644788 - 06/20/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What is the point of any post?

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14644799 - 06/20/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What is the point of any post?




For some in this forum, it is to try to have an intelligent debate on different political issues, but you are obviously incapable of that.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14644822 - 06/20/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What is the point of any post?




For some in this forum, it is to try to have an intelligent debate on different political issues, but you are obviously incapable of that.



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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14645071 - 06/20/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





as someone who opposed to income tax; my question, to those who want the tax cuts to stay in place, is what evidence do you have that they have  been good for the american economy?



There were no tax cuts.  There were rate cuts.  Tax receipts rose.  Because the economic activity rose.

If you want to raise taxes and think it's such a good idea maybe you should go after the 50% of workers who pay none at all instead of fucking the people who already foot almost all of the bill.





what part of my post make you think i want to raise taxes? and don't say by letting the "rate cuts" expire and i am for raising taxes either.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14645082 - 06/20/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

good point closed veil! i thought the same thing as the above poster but i stand corrected :cool:


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14645197 - 06/20/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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closed veil said:
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zappaisgod said:
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closed veil said:
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Seuss said:
The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





as someone who opposed to income tax; my question, to those who want the tax cuts to stay in place, is what evidence do you have that they have  been good for the american economy?



There were no tax cuts.  There were rate cuts.  Tax receipts rose.  Because the economic activity rose.

If you want to raise taxes and think it's such a good idea maybe you should go after the 50% of workers who pay none at all instead of fucking the people who already foot almost all of the bill.





what part of my post make you think i want to raise taxes? and don't say by letting the "rate cuts" expire and i am for raising taxes either.




That's a ridiculous thing to say. Letting the current tax cuts expire is the same thing as raising taxes. There was never a standard rate of taxation laid out in the constitution, it has constantly been changed throughout the country's history.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14645216 - 06/20/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That is a ridiculous thing to say that raising taxes is the same thing as a tax cut expiration

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14645320 - 06/20/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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That's a ridiculous thing to say. Letting the current tax cuts expire is the same thing as raising taxes. There was never a standard rate of taxation laid out in the constitution, it has constantly been changed throughout the country's history.





u are correct in the last part. ever read "perfectly legal"? it's a book about how that tax shift has happened. before WW2 most of the taxes in the USA were payed by the rich and corporations. after WW2 the majority of the tax burden was shifted to the middle class.

however, in no way is letting a tax cut expire raising taxes, they are being allowed to return to the original rate. they were sold to the american public as temporary after all.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14645529 - 06/20/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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That's a ridiculous thing to say. Letting the current tax cuts expire is the same thing as raising taxes. There was never a standard rate of taxation laid out in the constitution, it has constantly been changed throughout the country's history.





u are correct in the last part. ever read "perfectly legal"? it's a book about how that tax shift has happened. before WW2 most of the taxes in the USA were payed by the rich and corporations. after WW2 the majority of the tax burden was shifted to the middle class.

however, in no way is letting a tax cut expire raising taxes, they are being allowed to return to the original rate. they were sold to the american public as temporary after all.




Bullshit, they weren't sold to the american public. They were sold to politicians in power. It was only made temporary to give it a chance at passing through the house and senate.

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after WW2 the majority of the tax burden was shifted to the middle class




:ahahaha: The top 10% of income earner pay 68% of the taxes.

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they are being allowed to return to the original rate.




Exactly, they are being allowed to return to the "original" rate. You are knowingly not extending a piece of legislation because you want the tax rate to rise. Also, please explain to me why the previous tax rates are the "correct" ones.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14645576 - 06/20/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i didn't say any tax rates where "correct" i said part of your statement was correct. the part i put in bold.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14645589 - 06/20/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

down load "perfectly legal" for fee. 
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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14645655 - 06/20/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i didn't say any tax rates where "correct" i said part of your statement was correct. the part i put in bold.




All of my statement was correct, and you didn't respond to my argument as to why it was correct.



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down load "perfectly legal" for fee. 
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I will be sure to watch your shitty conspiracy movie that no one has heard of. :thumbup:


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14645669 - 06/20/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i didn't say any tax rates where "correct" i said part of your statement was correct. the part i put in bold.




All of my statement was correct, and you didn't respond to my argument as to why it was correct.



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down load "perfectly legal" for fee. 
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I will be sure to watch your shitty conspiracy movie that no one has heard of. :thumbup:





Another excellent post!

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14645686 - 06/20/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's a book. hope you can read.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14645703 - 06/20/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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it's a book. hope you can read.




You do realize that we are on a text based forum don't you?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14645740 - 06/20/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you do realize i posted the argument your making before you did right?

if my taxes are cut, and then years later brought back to the same rate they were before the cut, i wouldn't claim my taxes were being raised. it's a very weak point of view.


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