Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: < First | < Back | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | Next >
OfflineAJRenegade
Stranger
Male

Registered: 06/19/11
Posts: 67
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 years, 4 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14645209 - 06/20/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok gotcha. well idk if you are a socialist and quite frankly i wouldnt care if you were as most people dont know the difference between communism socialism and capitalism. im sorta socialist. but a little anarchist too. im an anarchist-socialist :smile: :smile:


--------------------
Those who mind don't matter, those who matter don't mind.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroomyJohn
Stranger
Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 1,085
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: AJRenegade]
    #14645230 - 06/20/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Word just because I believe in social welfare I'm labeled a socialist

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAJRenegade
Stranger
Male

Registered: 06/19/11
Posts: 67
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 12 years, 4 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14645304 - 06/20/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

the twenties are coming back man... or was the the 50's? haha yeah my parents think the same thing. im against the war in iraq yemen, libya and nato dropping bombs over countries that did not attack any nato country

and im a communist for not supporting that. huh well shit im kim jung il then lol


--------------------
Those who mind don't matter, those who matter don't mind.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinenumonkei
Back! From thedigestive tractof dave theiguana!

Registered: 04/12/06
Posts: 2,500
Loc: A Tree
Last seen: 6 years, 11 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14645478 - 06/20/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomyJohn said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I think it is because they have spoiled them.  Which the socialists around here wish they would do for them instead.




Is this Fox News or The Shroomery?  :tinfoil:





Haha, you're new it seems, the Political Discussion forum here has for a long time been overly-partisan, where both sides are demagogues on occasions, and other occasions. Western countries are just coming around to such a partisan level of enlightenment:wink:. It's fun to go back two/four years through the searches each time national elections come back up.

Still, good peoples, at least peoples with good taste.



~Monk

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblejohnm214
Male User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 05/31/07
Posts: 17,582
Loc: Americas
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14645489 - 06/20/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomyJohn said:
Quote:

AJRenegade said:
Quote:

ShroomyJohn said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I think it is because they have spoiled them.  Which the socialists around here wish they would do for them instead.




Is this Fox News or The Shroomery?  :tinfoil:



hahaha what would make you say its fox news? cause many people are actually conservative? crazy to think there are conservatives out there who are not involved in the main stream media. you sound like my profs lol




Mainly the tag of "socialist" being tossed around like they know what they're talking about :lolsy:




Who make up this collective of people who are tossing around the tag of socialist like they know what they're talking about?  Your claim that this is amusing has not been justified, and from my vantage it looks like yet another pompous screed made by folks with a prejudiced view of their ideological opponents.

Who here is exhibiting laughable misundertanding/misapplication of the adjective and metaphor "socialist"?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroomyJohn
Stranger
Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 1,085
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: johnm214]
    #14645573 - 06/20/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

johnm214 said:


Who make up this collective of people who are tossing around the tag of socialist like they know what they're talking about?  Your claim that this is amusing has not been justified, and from my vantage it looks like yet another pompous screed made by folks with a prejudiced view of their ideological opponents.

Who here is exhibiting laughable misundertanding/misapplication of the adjective and metaphor "socialist"?




Exactly :laugh2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblejohnm214
Male User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 05/31/07
Posts: 17,582
Loc: Americas
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14646415 - 06/21/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you don't want to discuss an idea, don't post about it on a discussion forum.

Go away.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHaifisch
Stranger


Registered: 05/25/11
Posts: 24
Loc: New Zealand Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 2 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: johnm214]
    #14646672 - 06/21/11 02:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As Hitler once said; "Public need before private greed"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSeussA
Error: divide byzero


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 23 days, 4 hours
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14646800 - 06/21/11 03:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

> just because I believe in social welfare I'm labeled a socialist

One of the primary tenants of socialism is social equality and a distribution of wealth (also known as social welfare).  You admittedly support one of the big concepts that defines socialism.  If you are not a socialist, what are you?


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroomyJohn
Stranger
Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 1,085
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: Seuss]
    #14647190 - 06/21/11 07:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> just because I believe in social welfare I'm labeled a socialist

One of the primary tenants of socialism is social equality and a distribution of wealth (also known as social welfare).  You admittedly support one of the big concepts that defines socialism.  If you are not a socialist, what are you?




By that definition our government has been socialist for almost 100 years.  Its hard to label my overall beliefs but socio capitalist is on the right track.  The two opposites do not need to always conflict.  One or the other don't work history has proven that. A strong private sector regulated to prevent manipulation should always be in a balance with a strong competeing government.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroomyJohn
Stranger
Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 1,085
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14647200 - 06/21/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Paul Ryan the conservative budget God is a socialist I guess?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroomyJohn
Stranger
Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 1,085
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14647211 - 06/21/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Regan too

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroomyJohn
Stranger
Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 1,085
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14647232 - 06/21/11 07:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Or the Declaration of Independence "all men are created equal"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSeussA
Error: divide byzero


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 23 days, 4 hours
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14647349 - 06/21/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

> By that definition our government has been socialist for almost 100 years.

Since FDR, yes...


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineChuangTzu
starvingphysicist
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 09/04/02
Posts: 3,060
Last seen: 10 years, 4 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: Seuss]
    #14647638 - 06/21/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> By that definition our government has been socialist for almost 100 years.

Since FDR, yes...




Yup.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinezappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14647697 - 06/21/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomyJohn said:
Quote:

Seuss said:
> just because I believe in social welfare I'm labeled a socialist

One of the primary tenants of socialism is social equality and a distribution of wealth (also known as social welfare).  You admittedly support one of the big concepts that defines socialism.  If you are not a socialist, what are you?




By that definition our government has been socialist for almost 100 years.  Its hard to label my overall beliefs but socio capitalist is on the right track.  The two opposites do not need to always conflict.  One or the other don't work history has proven that. A strong private sector regulated to prevent manipulation should always be in a balance with a strong competeing government.




Government has no business competing with the private sector.  Our government is supposed to exist to serve the private sector.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroomyJohn
Stranger
Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 1,085
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: Seuss]
    #14648152 - 06/21/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

" Government has no business competing with the private sector. Our government is supposed to exist to serve the private sector."

That is your opinion, why are you stating it as fact?

Quote:

Seuss said:
> By that definition our government has been socialist for almost 100 years.

Since FDR, yes...





Nope, look a little futher back buddy.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinezappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14648567 - 06/21/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As I have explained for several years here it is a continuum.  It tipped disgustingly into socialism with the coronation of FDR.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroomyJohn
Stranger
Registered: 09/13/10
Posts: 1,085
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14648754 - 06/21/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
As I have explained for several years here it is a continuum.  It tipped disgustingly into socialism with the coronation of FDR.




Once again.  If it weren't needed, it wouldn't have occurred.  Maybe if good old private sector would have done their part, we wouldn't have to be debating this.  Free markets allow for redistribution of wealth the same way socialism does.  One redistributes up to a select few on the backs of many, the other redistributes down to many on the backs of a few.  There is no reason a pleasant balance between the two can't be reached that provides for (almost) everyone.  You simply refuse this to be the case because you were brought up in the time where "America is free and we will defeat the commie scum" attitude was prevelent.  China is a perfect example of combining capitalism with communism, which most think are conflicting ideologies. 


To call yourself conservative is a mockery of the word.  What you want to do is quite radical.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineChuangTzu
starvingphysicist
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 09/04/02
Posts: 3,060
Last seen: 10 years, 4 months
Re: Why do so many people think stealing more from the "rich" is ok? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14648795 - 06/21/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomyJohn said:
Once again.  If it weren't needed, it wouldn't have occurred.




:confused:

Quote:

Maybe if good old private sector would have done their part, we wouldn't have to be debating this.  Free markets allow for redistribution of wealth the same way socialism does. 




The difference is that free markets allow for it, while socialism requires it.

Quote:

One redistributes up to a select few on the backs of many, the other redistributes down to many on the backs of a few. 




That doesn't even make sense.

Quote:

There is no reason a pleasant balance between the two can't be reached that provides for (almost) everyone.  You simply refuse this to be the case because you were brought up in the time where "America is free and we will defeat the commie scum" attitude was prevelent.  China is a perfect example of combining capitalism with communism, which most think are conflicting ideologies. 




If you consider China to be a perfect example of anything, you should just stop there.

Quote:


To call yourself conservative is a mockery of the word.  What you want to do is quite radical.




What he wants to do was radical at the time of the American Revolution.  It's not so radical anymore, except to people in most other countries on the planet.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < First | < Back | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | Next >

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Mommy, where do rich people come from?
( 1 2 3 all )
Baby_Hitler 4,015 53 01/23/03 11:06 PM
by Innvertigo
* Poll: How rich are "The Rich"?
( 1 2 3 all )
Baby_Hitler 3,550 40 11/20/03 11:34 PM
by RandalFlagg
* When stealing two batteries can mean life imprisonment
( 1 2 3 all )
carbonhoots 2,218 52 04/12/03 10:36 AM
by infidelGOD
* help the rich...step on the poor, some more
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
carbonhoots 6,843 88 01/16/03 06:02 PM
by Xlea321
* Ahnuld's budget...the poor will pay, the rich will play
( 1 2 all )
carbonhoots 1,914 25 01/19/04 10:11 PM
by
* Bush sneaks through more tax cuts for the rich during war
( 1 2 all )
EchoVortex 4,853 39 03/26/03 09:09 PM
by luvdemshrooms
* Tax cuts for the rich?????
( 1 2 all )
zappaisgod 1,846 22 12/11/05 08:28 AM
by Solutarch
* Face it, you'll never be rich
( 1 2 3 all )
wingnutx 2,659 43 10/09/03 01:06 PM
by hongomon

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil, ballsalsa
13,955 topic views. 4 members, 9 guests and 3 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.03 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 14 queries.