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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14638675 - 06/19/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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a treaty can only be made with another nation, or country. native americans didn't get the right to US citizenship until 1924. what part of they where, and are, "another" country don;t you understand?




It's America.  Do you think the Americans invaded the Iroquois Nation?

Just fucking stop.  They weren't another country.  You just called them native Americans.:rofl2:

Of course this was all total distraction and obfuscation from your bullshit in this thread that you got busted on.  Let's start here:
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or maybe they are safe because they don't send troops around the world and bully other countries out of there natural resources.




So what did we get from Vietnam? What about Iraq back in 1990? Did we get anything for stopping Japan and Germany? NO we loaned them money to rebuild. Did we get anything for helping in Kosovo? No we aided humans in need at our expense, evil military I tell you, stopping genocide should be a crime!





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i never said anything about WW2. once again twisting. i'm talking current events, not a war that happened over 60 years ago.




Your bullshit is never ending.





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a treaty can only be made with another nation, or country. native americans didn't get the right to US citizenship until 1924. what part of they where, and are, "another" country don;t you understand?




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It's America.  Do you think the Americans invaded the Iroquois Nation?




i don't 'think' this, it is what happened. as i have said, no-less then 3 times, a treaty can only be made with another nation, so by signing a treaty with an indian tribe, the US gov't was admitting that they are a nation. :facepalm:

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Just fucking stop.  They weren't another country.  You just called them native Americans.:rofl2:




i said "native american's" to indicate people who where here before europeans arrived, and not people from the nation of india. :facepalm:

i will say again that a treaty can only be made with another country, so you are wrong, they where and are another country, just because they didn't have the same formalised gov't as we did made them no-less of a country.

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Of course this was all total distraction and obfuscation from your bullshit in this thread that you got busted on.  Let's start here:

Your bullshit is never ending.





1. zappa, i have stated several historical facts to prove you and others wrong, and you dismiss them with no proof at all. it seems like you are the one making a distraction.




I quoted a historical fact.  That fact was that you blew a bunch of shit out your ass, got called on it, diverted it into something else entirely because you got busted and persist in attempting to Weiner the debate into something it wasn't.  What historical fact did you present to prove me wrong about what?  You made an asinine statement that we bullied and invaded nations and then later clarified you only were talking about recent history and not WW2.  Now it's the fucking Indians?  Spare me.
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2. the amount of historical facts that i could provide to prove others wrong could be never-ending. you con't to dismiss the truth, the facts, insult others and prove nothing. it's getting very old. this forum should not be called "Political Discussion" it should be called "assholes arguing"



:rofl2:  Poor busted baby whines and whines and whines.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14639170 - 06/19/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

what am i whining about? what did i blow out of my ass? what did i get busted on? and what evidence have you provided to back-up anything that you have said?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14642239 - 06/20/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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or maybe they are safe because they don't send troops around the world and bully other countries out of there natural resources.




So what did we get from Vietnam? What about Iraq back in 1990? Did we get anything for stopping Japan and Germany? NO we loaned them money to rebuild. Did we get anything for helping in Kosovo? No we aided humans in need at our expense, evil military I tell you, stopping genocide should be a crime!



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i never said anything about WW2. once again twisting. i'm talking current events, not a war that happened over 60 years ago.




Posted for the third time.  Which you redirected into bullshit about sweatshops in Vietnam and land confiscations from the Indians.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14642606 - 06/20/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you are clipping together quotes rather then reading the whole conversation. what you are doing is know in the political world as "spinning"

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what am i whining about? what did i blow out of my ass? what did i get busted on? and what evidence have you provided to back-up anything that you have said?




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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14642676 - 06/20/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: Seuss]
    #14643048 - 06/20/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





Impossible because there is no possible way to have any intelligent discussion with people who argue semantics over content (zappa).  Words are being put places they didn't come from, and then they (zappa) try to use twisted statements against people.

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14643174 - 06/20/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

spinning.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: Seuss]
    #14643204 - 06/20/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





as someone who opposed to income tax; my question, to those who want the tax cuts to stay in place, is what evidence do you have that they have  been good for the american economy?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14643258 - 06/20/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





as someone who opposed to income tax; my question, to those who want the tax cuts to stay in place, is what evidence do you have that they have  been good for the american economy?




They've always been good for the economy:huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14643280 - 06/20/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

and the evidence?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14643383 - 06/20/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't need evidence my word is fact.

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14643891 - 06/20/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14643939 - 06/20/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Seuss said:
The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





as someone who opposed to income tax; my question, to those who want the tax cuts to stay in place, is what evidence do you have that they have  been good for the american economy?



There were no tax cuts.  There were rate cuts.  Tax receipts rose.  Because the economic activity rose.

If you want to raise taxes and think it's such a good idea maybe you should go after the 50% of workers who pay none at all instead of fucking the people who already foot almost all of the bill.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14644519 - 06/20/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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closed veil said:
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Seuss said:
The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





as someone who opposed to income tax; my question, to those who want the tax cuts to stay in place, is what evidence do you have that they have  been good for the american economy?



There were no tax cuts.  There were rate cuts.  Tax receipts rose.  Because the economic activity rose.

If you want to raise taxes and think it's such a good idea maybe you should go after the 50% of workers who pay none at all instead of fucking the people who already foot almost all of the bill.




Maybe if people got paid more they would pay taxes :wink:

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14644584 - 06/20/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Seuss said:
The back and forth is interesting, I'm sure, but can we please get back on topic of the Bush tax cuts?





as someone who opposed to income tax; my question, to those who want the tax cuts to stay in place, is what evidence do you have that they have  been good for the american economy?



There were no tax cuts.  There were rate cuts.  Tax receipts rose.  Because the economic activity rose.

If you want to raise taxes and think it's such a good idea maybe you should go after the 50% of workers who pay none at all instead of fucking the people who already foot almost all of the bill.




Maybe if people got paid more they would pay taxes :wink:




Maybe if they actually gave a shit about work they would get paid more?  How about they just pay taxes on what they make now?  How about they get off their asses and actually try to produce instead of scamming their employers?  Maybe if they got paid more everybody's costs would either go up or the products would be produced elsewhere?  Maybe we would get even more unemployment and more illegal immigrants?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14644658 - 06/20/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe if they actually gave a shit about work they would get paid more?  How about they just pay taxes on what they make now?  How about they get off their asses and actually try to produce instead of scamming their employers?  Maybe if they got paid more everybody's costs would either go up or the products would be produced elsewhere?  Maybe we would get even more unemployment and more illegal immigrants?





We've already discussed with your pals that it doesn't matter how hard you work

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14644709 - 06/20/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe if they actually gave a shit about work they would get paid more?  How about they just pay taxes on what they make now?  How about they get off their asses and actually try to produce instead of scamming their employers?  Maybe if they got paid more everybody's costs would either go up or the products would be produced elsewhere?  Maybe we would get even more unemployment and more illegal immigrants?





We've already discussed with your pals that it doesn't matter how hard you work



You can discuss that walking on the sun is good for your health.  I have discussed repeatedly with your pals that it does.  Do you realize that your philosophy is a sentence?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14644720 - 06/20/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe if they actually gave a shit about work they would get paid more?  How about they just pay taxes on what they make now?  How about they get off their asses and actually try to produce instead of scamming their employers?  Maybe if they got paid more everybody's costs would either go up or the products would be produced elsewhere?  Maybe we would get even more unemployment and more illegal immigrants?





We've already discussed with your pals that it doesn't matter how hard you work




Why do you feel entitled to anything more than the necessities to life?


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: 4896744]
    #14644741 - 06/20/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe if they actually gave a shit about work they would get paid more?  How about they just pay taxes on what they make now?  How about they get off their asses and actually try to produce instead of scamming their employers?  Maybe if they got paid more everybody's costs would either go up or the products would be produced elsewhere?  Maybe we would get even more unemployment and more illegal immigrants?





We've already discussed with your pals that it doesn't matter how hard you work




Why do you feel entitled to anything more than the necessities to life?






Why do you feel entitled to anything other than the necessities to life?

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14644743 - 06/20/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe if they actually gave a shit about work they would get paid more?  How about they just pay taxes on what they make now?  How about they get off their asses and actually try to produce instead of scamming their employers?  Maybe if they got paid more everybody's costs would either go up or the products would be produced elsewhere?  Maybe we would get even more unemployment and more illegal immigrants?





We've already discussed with your pals that it doesn't matter how hard you work




Why do you feel entitled to anything more than the necessities to life?






Why do you feel entitled to anything other than the necessities to life?




I don't, that is why i don't bitch about rich people giving me more of their money.


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