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WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID????
    #1463202 - 04/16/03 08:02 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I know I posted this else where but I only got 3 views and its really worth youre time!
This skanky hitchiking crackwhore I picked up said
"Last season a friend and I used tartaric acid(ingredient found in cordial and soft drink) to extract psylocibin fom large quantitys of shrooms and we only had a rough outline which has since been forgotten. We applyed water and heat to large quantitys of shrooms & tartaric acid say 250mushies mabe 2 table spoons 3litres or so of water heated for one hour then added cordial. We come up with a sweet tasting very pleasent potent brew that blew minds. Does any one know any more about this as to refine this tek"
"Wow" I said




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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: trev]
    #1463211 - 04/16/03 08:14 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure as I have never done it... but have u tried doing this with just water?? From What I have read Water is almost perfect for Psilocybin extraction..

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: mesq]
    #1463220 - 04/16/03 08:23 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

No but if thats the case then the action of the tartaric acid MAY only be to neautralise the shroom taste but mabe it helps to extract the sillycibin?  :confused:We need input from a guru! Guru? Guru where are you??  :shocked:


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[quote]There are billions of people on this planet. The world does not revolve around the united states, moron. I hope terrorists crash their collective cocks into your asshole. [/quote]

Edited by trev (04/16/03 08:50 AM)

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: trev]
    #1463622 - 04/16/03 11:45 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see the point as psilocybin is so soluble in water, I guess maybe it could help pull the tryptamines a little faster maybe?


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    #1463686 - 04/16/03 12:01 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)


Edited by matts (04/16/03 12:03 PM)

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: matts]
    #1463759 - 04/16/03 12:28 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

hmm.......

Read http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_chemistry.shtml , particulary the solubility entries.

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: Anno]
    #1463789 - 04/16/03 12:46 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: ]
    #1463809 - 04/16/03 12:54 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Spring *cough* break *cough*

damn cigs....  :grin: 

not to forget, it?s 8:55 PM....

Edited by Anno (04/16/03 12:55 PM)

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: Anno]
    #1466236 - 04/17/03 03:06 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone who has heaps of mushies should experiment.
Im surprised at the lack of knowelge on this subject this is really tasty and affective.


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[quote]There are billions of people on this planet. The world does not revolve around the united states, moron. I hope terrorists crash their collective cocks into your asshole. [/quote]

Edited by trev (04/17/03 06:20 AM)

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: trev]
    #1469472 - 04/18/03 04:40 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Hi everyone Id like to clarify something here...

to quote Dr.Shulgin http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/extraction.htm

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The isolation of psilocybin seemed to be quite reasonable. This alkaloid is reasonably soluble in boiling water from which it can be nicely crystallized. It is less soluble in boiling methanol, and almost insoluble in boiling ethanol.






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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: mesq]
    #1469541 - 04/18/03 06:34 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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The isolation of psilocybin seemed to be quite reasonable. This alkaloid is reasonably soluble in boiling water from which it can be nicely crystallized. It is less soluble in boiling methanol, and almost insoluble in boiling ethanol.






I would think it more soluble in methanol, but I'm not about to argue with a PHD in chem. I'm almost certain, however, that he's talking about de-ionized water. I would also venture a guess that adding some HCL to the DI would increase it's solubility in solu'n even more.

Thanks for the link :smile:


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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1469543 - 04/18/03 06:36 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Read http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_chemistry.shtml , particulary the solubility entries.

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1469546 - 04/18/03 06:43 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

After digesting the link, it would appear and extraction with water followed by an extraction with 70% ethanol is the best way to go. One could combine the two decanted solutions and either add cold acetone to crystalize and speed evaporation, or just evaporate without the tone.

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with psilocin...the optimum extraction was with a 70% ethanol concentration.

psilocybin...is reasonably soluble in boiling water from which it can be nicely crystallized




Very imformative! Shrooms for you :smile:


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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: Anno]
    #1469556 - 04/18/03 06:50 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Read http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_chemistry.shtml , particulary the solubility entries.




psilocin...Very slightly sol in water

psilocybin...Sol in 20 parts boiling water, 120 parts boiling methanol; difficultly sol. in ethanol

Wow! How very interesting. Lot's of people seem to have been doing it wrong.


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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1471522 - 04/18/03 08:14 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

The gistof the link is that Psilocybin is easily extracted in boiling water and Methanol... but Psilocin is a much more protracted process

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: mesq]
    #1494445 - 04/25/03 09:36 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Ok but you should try the tartaric acid with the extacted water its like shroom soft drink.


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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: trev]
    #1495988 - 04/26/03 01:38 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

has anybody read
Gartz J. Extraction and analysis of indole derivatives from fungal biomass. [Journal Article] Journal of Basic Microbiology. 34(1):17-22, 1994.
UI: 8207663

I once had a copy. If I remember correctly he used Methanol, acetic acid and something else. Anyway, I think his results suggested better yields of psilocybin with methanol, but better yields of psilocin with an acetic acid mixture. I can't remember exactly, but if someone has access to a good college database that has the full article, it may be worth checking out.

Edited by cheesenoonions (04/26/03 01:41 PM)

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: cheesenoonions]
    #9171396 - 11/02/08 06:21 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

checked above paper out and it depends if you're after psilocybin, psilocin, or baeocystin, as using acetic acid, or methanol, or a methanol ethanol mix extracted different quantities of each. and it also depends on what species you use as to what you extract from each. This is a vague overall of the results.

methanol extracts the most psilocybin, a small amount of psilocin, and a fair amount of baeocystin.

acetic acid extracts only slightly less psilocybn than methanol, a slightly larger amount of psilocin than methanol, and the same amount of baeocystin as methanol.

the methanol/ethanol mix extracted a fair amount less psilocybin than methanol, lots more psilocin, and a lot less baeocystin.

so methanol and acetic acid are first equal and the methanol/ethanol mix diddnt finish the race.


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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: Fearn]
    #9174461 - 11/02/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Im not advanced in this by any means.. but this answered a lot of the questions i had
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_journal1.shtml

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Re: WHO HAS EXTRACTED PSYLOCIBIN WITH TARTARIC ACID???? [Re: R10tGuNn3r]
    #9218683 - 11/10/08 03:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

forget about tartaric acid. I wanna know about the hitchiking, crack smoking, whore bag.
Was she cute? did she smell? mmmm i want me some filthy cooter:crazy2:


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