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Re: .... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14627564 - 06/17/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It means having a relaxed life. Yes you might have to work hard. Yes you should think about saving. But not having food,water, shelter, or clothes as a primary concern. Is relaxed.
And able to get certain luxuries. (computer,car,extra bedroom, cable, etc..)

Just cuz they DO treat prisoners in horrible ways or treat women poorly of a lower class is a lower standard of living. Just bringing the women in alone cuts the higher standard of living by 50%

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Re: .... [Re: MelloRed]
    #14627579 - 06/17/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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we have the capability to be mostly self sufficient if we wanted to.  The rest of the world can't do a damn thing about it.





We, the rest of the world, have let y'all dream a dream of untold riches on our money, by letting you be the world reserve currency and turning a blind eye while you inflated it into oblivion.

Its time to wake up guys, we feel less and less like paying for your American dream.

"The rest of the world can't do a damn thing about it." you say, but over the past decades we the rest of the world have been extremely generous and to our dismay you have stopped producing and become completely dependent on our money.

Its been YEARS that I saw anything labeled "Made In The USA"

So we are easing our money away from you and you start inflating like a mofo so that theres the illusion of money coming in, and hollowing our holdings in U$D and treasuries.

No more drinks for you America, get your act together and you're welcome to return when you've sobered up.


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Re: .... [Re: dshow] * 1
    #14627591 - 06/17/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dshow said:
It means having a relaxed life.
And able to get certain luxuries. (computer,car,extra bedroom, cable, etc..)





you seem to have a pretty distorted view of the world, should NYC be considered a poor standard of living since apartments are tiny and the majority of people dont have a car






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Just cuz they DO treat prisoners is horrible ways or treat women poorly of a lower class is a lower standard of living.




by the views of western society

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Re: .... [Re: Asante]
    #14627597 - 06/17/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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we have the capability to be mostly self sufficient if we wanted to.  The rest of the world can't do a damn thing about it.





We, the rest of the world, have let y'all dream a dream of untold riches on our money, by letting you be the world reserve currency and turning a blind eye while you inflated it into oblivion.

Its time to wake up guys, we feel less and less like paying for your American dream.

"The rest of the world can't do a damn thing about it." you say, but over the past decades we the rest of the world have been extremely generous and to our dismay you have stopped producing and become completely dependent on our money.

Its been YEARS that I saw anything labeled "Made In The USA"

So we are easing our money away from you and you start inflating like a mofo so that theres the illusion of money coming in, and hollowing our holdings in U$D and treasuries.

No more drinks for you America, get your act together and you're welcome to return when you've sobered up.





nicely put. But ill be damned if i go against my own country with words. This country isnt done. I hope its just on a slight crutch.

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Re: .... [Re: Asante]
    #14627607 - 06/17/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

damn wicca just laid it down


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Re: .... [Re: the human abstract]
    #14627618 - 06/17/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I certainly wont say he's wrong

'cuz he aint

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Re: .... [Re: the human abstract]
    #14627670 - 06/17/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

By the views if western society?

By the views of humanity. it is wrong.

Here i am talking overall standard of living and your talking about a small percentage of a country that is only 20 million people. Look at the overall percentages. Your comparisons are terrible.


Wicca is trying to lay it down. Bottom line is . . here we are. still here. I know many many many people that are thriving. We have reserves we havent tapped into and we have countries that we invaded with a snap of our fingers.

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Re: .... [Re: dshow]
    #14627761 - 06/17/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dshow said:
By the views if western society?

By the views of humanity. it is wrong.

Here i am talking overall standard of living and your talking about a small percentage of a country that is only 20 million people. Look at the overall percentages. Your comparisons are terrible.


Wicca is trying to lay it down. Bottom line is . . here we are. still here. I know many many many people that are thriving. We have reserves we havent tapped into and we have countries that we invaded with a snap of our fingers.





:dudewtf:


What we have right now is the illusion of a high standard of life when in fact
we are just about at a point where there will be no more middle class at all.
Its going to either be rich or poor. Just because we can invade a country does
not make us prosperous and sooner or later (like Wiccan has stated) other countries
are not going to allow it to happen for much longer.

Better eat ur hot dogs and cheeseburgers while you can.

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Re: .... [Re: dshow]
    #14627803 - 06/17/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dshow said:
By the views of humanity. it is wrong.




I guess you're unaware that humanity is filled with violent and oppressive people

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Here i am talking overall standard of living and your talking about a small percentage of a country that is only 20 million people. Look at the overall percentages. Your comparisons are terrible.




you're comparing standard of living to the western ideal, you arent
talking about quality of life, something far more important since many
people are thrilled to live outside of your consumerist, 3 TVs in the
bathroom, new computer and wifi, luxury car lifestyle... billions of
people want to avoid your standard of living in the decadent indebted
lifestyle, they're happy being self sufficient

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Re: .... [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14627804 - 06/17/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Besides your typical stereotypes...


countries arent going to allow it anymore? :blah: wut?



Why am i failing to see this? am i that oblivious? maybe so..

I love the predictions of america falling. Yet every state i have moved to (2 in the last 2 years) I see people that are doing good. They have their cell phone with internet. They have their fafsa. They get medical care and dont pay for it. I am basing this off of what i believe is 'good'

Invading other countries has the 'possibility' to make  us prosper.  Not saying it will happen. But shit. We are the world's reserve dollar. We have tons of land with a small population compared to the densities of other countries. We can and will invade countries if we need resources/money.


The "will" is gone. But people can and do start up their own businesses here.

I enjoy my $3.50 gallon of gas compared to european countries.

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Re: .... [Re: dshow]
    #14627824 - 06/17/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

dshow said:
Invading other countries has the 'possibility' to make  us prosper.





just as germany prospered under hitler, that's how america will prosper with
war... then the world will step in and we become 'occupied america'

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Re: .... [Re: dshow]
    #14627978 - 06/17/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I love the predictions of america falling. Yet every state i have moved to (2 in the last 2 years)





All the wealth you see is fluffed up debt.


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32 States Have Borrowed from the Federal Government to Make Unemployment Payments; California Has Borrowed $7 Billion

EconomicPolicyJournal.com has learned that 32 states have run out funds to make unemployment benefit payments and that the federal government has been supplying these states with funds so that they can make their  payments to the unemployed. In some cases, states have borrowed billions. As of May 20, the total balance outstanding by 32 states (and the Virgin Islands) is $37.8 billion.

The state of California has borrowed $6.9 billion. Michigan has borrowed $3.9 billion, Illinois $2.2 billion.

Below is the full list of the 32 states (and the Virgin Islands) that have borrowed from the federal government  to make unemployment payments, and the amounts that remain borrowed as of May 20 . (Numbers in red are billions)


Alabama      $ 283 million
Arkansas        330 million
California        6.9 billion
Colorado      253 million
Connecticut    498 million
Delaware        12 million
Florida          1.6 billion
Georgia        416 million
Idaho            202 million
Illinois            2.2 billion
Indiana          1.7 billion
Kansas          88 million
Kentucky    795 million
Maryland    133 million
Mass.          387 million
Michigan        3.9 billion
Minnesota    477 million
Missouri      722 million
Nevada        397 million
New Jersey  1.7 billion
New York    3.2 billion
N.C.              2.1 billion
Ohio            2.3 billion
Penn.            3.0 billion
R.I.              225 million
S.C.            886 million
S.D.              24 million
Tennessee    21 million
Texas          1.0 billion
Vermont        33 million
Virginia      346 million
Virgin Islands 13 million
Wisconsin    1.4 billion
Total        $37.8 billion


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Those arent strategic loans, those are holy mother of fuck we're out of money plz assist loans. $37.8 Billion doesnt seem much now with the bailouts and all, but thats about $150 per month, every month, per working American.


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Re: .... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14628155 - 06/17/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

dshow said:
Invading other countries has the 'possibility' to make  us prosper.





just as germany prospered under hitler, that's how america will prosper with
war... then the world will step in and we become 'occupied america'



Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

dshow said:
Invading other countries has the 'possibility' to make  us prosper.





just as germany prospered under hitler, that's how america will prosper with
war... then the world will step in and we become 'occupied america'





yes thats it.. hitler germany. It is somewhat of a comparison.. but our influence is far to great for most countries to even think of that.

even if our influence is going down. hitler germany? really?





Please tell me what those numbers mean besides the obvious debt or is that the idea??


I dont follow this stuff through and through but i do try my best when i have time.

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Re: .... [Re: dshow]
    #14628176 - 06/17/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

dshow said:

Please tell me what those numbers mean besides the obvious debt or is that the idea??


I dont follow this stuff through and through but i do try my best when i have time.





Then listen to us and try not to blow us off when we are telling you the truth.
The numbers above are exactly what it says....

Below is the full list of the 32 states (and the Virgin Islands) that have borrowed from the federal government  to make unemployment payments, and the amounts that remain borrowed as of May 20 . (Numbers in red are billions)

Thats just borrowing to make up for unemployment. I am not sure of the total debt
of these states. But in short. Because our "standard of living" was so high for so
long we are beginning to see what happens when a country tries to maintain that high
level even when it is not doing so in a responsible manner. We are doing most everything
wrong.

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Re: .... [Re: Asante]
    #14628850 - 06/17/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:

I love the predictions of america falling. Yet every state i have moved to (2 in the last 2 years)





All the wealth you see is fluffed up debt.


Quote:

32 States Have Borrowed from the Federal Government to Make Unemployment Payments; California Has Borrowed $7 Billion

EconomicPolicyJournal.com has learned that 32 states have run out funds to make unemployment benefit payments and that the federal government has been supplying these states with funds so that they can make their  payments to the unemployed. In some cases, states have borrowed billions. As of May 20, the total balance outstanding by 32 states (and the Virgin Islands) is $37.8 billion.

The state of California has borrowed $6.9 billion. Michigan has borrowed $3.9 billion, Illinois $2.2 billion.

Below is the full list of the 32 states (and the Virgin Islands) that have borrowed from the federal government  to make unemployment payments, and the amounts that remain borrowed as of May 20 . (Numbers in red are billions)


Alabama      $ 283 million
Arkansas        330 million
California        6.9 billion
Colorado      253 million
Connecticut    498 million
Delaware        12 million
Florida          1.6 billion
Georgia        416 million
Idaho            202 million
Illinois            2.2 billion
Indiana          1.7 billion
Kansas          88 million
Kentucky    795 million
Maryland    133 million
Mass.          387 million
Michigan        3.9 billion
Minnesota    477 million
Missouri      722 million
Nevada        397 million
New Jersey  1.7 billion
New York    3.2 billion
N.C.              2.1 billion
Ohio            2.3 billion
Penn.            3.0 billion
R.I.              225 million
S.C.            886 million
S.D.              24 million
Tennessee    21 million
Texas          1.0 billion
Vermont        33 million
Virginia      346 million
Virgin Islands 13 million
Wisconsin    1.4 billion
Total        $37.8 billion


Source






Those arent strategic loans, those are holy mother of fuck we're out of money plz assist loans. $37.8 Billion doesnt seem much now with the bailouts and all, but thats about $150 per month, every month, per working American.





part of this is Obama extending unemployment limits, instead of 6mos it
was stretched to a year and he's recently done it again

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Re: .... [Re: dshow]
    #14628894 - 06/17/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dshow said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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dshow said:
Invading other countries has the 'possibility' to make  us prosper.



just as germany prospered under hitler, that's how america will prosper with
war... then the world will step in and we become 'occupied america'




yes thats it.. hitler germany. It is somewhat of a comparison.. but our influence is far to great for most countries to even think of that.

even if our influence is going down. hitler germany? really?





really... the US doesnt have to kill 12 million jews, homosexuals, and
gypsies, we just have to bring democracy to a few more countries

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Re: .... [Re: Asante]
    #14628896 - 06/17/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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we have the capability to be mostly self sufficient if we wanted to.  The rest of the world can't do a damn thing about it.





We, the rest of the world, have let y'all dream a dream of untold riches on our money, by letting you be the world reserve currency and turning a blind eye while you inflated it into oblivion.




Your money?  Europe has been a parasitic continent for decades.  On our money.  Nothing here has been inflated into oblivion.  I can't speak for the lazy socialist slacker assholes in all of Europe, though.
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Its time to wake up guys, we feel less and less like paying for your American dream.




Eurotrash never paid for anything.
Quote:



"The rest of the world can't do a damn thing about it." you say, but over the past decades we the rest of the world have been extremely generous and to our dismay you have stopped producing and become completely dependent on our money.




No you havcen't.  You have sucked at the teat as hard as ever.
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Its been YEARS that I saw anything labeled "Made In The USA"




Bullshit.
Quote:



So we are easing our money away from you and you start inflating like a mofo so that theres the illusion of money coming in, and hollowing our holdings in U$D and treasuries.




The Euro is in complete disarray and about to collapse because of the lazy socialist slacker bums even though we have paid the bill for their security for decades
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No more drinks for you America, get your act together and you're welcome to return when you've sobered up.




What we would be better off doing is telling you bums to fuck off and let the tanks roll.  Stupid pussies can't even supply the men and material to take over LIBYA, fer fuck sake.


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Re: .... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14630935 - 06/17/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Zappa what in the hell you drinkin bromium ??

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    #14631121 - 06/17/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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then the world will step in and get their ass kicked




I corrected your statement. ^ :smirk:


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    #14632044 - 06/18/11 03:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
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we have the capability to be mostly self sufficient if we wanted to.  The rest of the world can't do a damn thing about it.





We, the rest of the world, have let y'all dream a dream of untold riches on our money, by letting you be the world reserve currency and turning a blind eye while you inflated it into oblivion.




Your money?  Europe has been a parasitic continent for decades.  On our money.  Nothing here has been inflated into oblivion.  I can't speak for the lazy socialist slacker assholes in all of Europe, though.
Quote:



Its time to wake up guys, we feel less and less like paying for your American dream.




Eurotrash never paid for anything.
Quote:



"The rest of the world can't do a damn thing about it." you say, but over the past decades we the rest of the world have been extremely generous and to our dismay you have stopped producing and become completely dependent on our money.




No you havcen't.  You have sucked at the teat as hard as ever.
Quote:



Its been YEARS that I saw anything labeled "Made In The USA"




Bullshit.
Quote:



So we are easing our money away from you and you start inflating like a mofo so that theres the illusion of money coming in, and hollowing our holdings in U$D and treasuries.




The Euro is in complete disarray and about to collapse because of the lazy socialist slacker bums even though we have paid the bill for their security for decades
Quote:



No more drinks for you America, get your act together and you're welcome to return when you've sobered up.




What we would be better off doing is telling you bums to fuck off and let the tanks roll.  Stupid pussies can't even supply the men and material to take over LIBYA, fer fuck sake.



:dumbass:

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