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dwpineal
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Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends
#14627179 - 06/17/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends
The Associated Press Published: Thursday, Jun. 16, 2011 - 3:11 pm Last Modified: Thursday, Jun. 16, 2011 - 5:22 pm
FAIRFIELD, Calif. -- A judge has ordered a Solano County man to stand trial for murder in the deaths of his two friends during a drug-fueled night.
Investigators say 19-year-old Richard Calkins fatally shot his friends and wounded a third after they ate psilocybin mushrooms while hanging out at a Vacaville apartment.
During a two-day preliminary hearing, defense attorneys played a police interview in which Calkins appeared shocked to learn that he had killed his friends. He said he thought it was all a bad dream.
Defense attorneys had argued that Calkins be tried for involuntary manslaughter in the deaths of 20-year-olds Richard Perez and Cameron Silva.
The Vacaville Reporter reports that the judge said Wednesday there appeared to be an expressed intent to kill because all three victims were shot in the head.
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/06/16/3706869/solano-man-to-stand-trial-in-murders.html#ixzz1PXvJdQsN
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: dwpineal]
#14627192 - 06/17/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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How the fuck does this happen. Even if I was having a terrible trip KILLING someone is the LAST thing on my mind.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14627233 - 06/17/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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tymoteusz3 said: How the fuck does this happen. Even if I was having a terrible trip KILLING someone is the LAST thing on my mind.
exactly i agree totally this guy wasn't tripping after the shrooms hit effect he was messed up in the head and the shrooms made him him kinda like the lady that cut her baby up
edit: or i guess i wanna know how much he took
Edited by JilPil (06/17/11 09:28 AM)
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love2shpongleIRL
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14627249 - 06/17/11 09:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I don't get it. I've been thrown into some primal states and even then, it's still all peace and love.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
#14628503 - 06/17/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psychedelics certainly have the ability to make batshit crazy people that much more unstable. Still though, a lot more people get killed by drunks acting stupid than by spunions tripping their balls off.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: fapjack]
#14628895 - 06/17/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I can't see how it'd be a good idea to be tripping around a loaded firearm.
Kinda falls into the category of pointy/hot/dangerous things. I do enjoy fire while tripping but I keep it WAY safe and never allow things to burn for a MOMENT more than I'm willing to observe it while happening.
I tend to stay away from large bodies of water while tripping as well. The bathtub is good enough for me ^_^.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Humility]
#14628911 - 06/17/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Killing somebody on mushrooms would be more detrimental to my mental health than any bad trip I could've had. And I've dosed HARD. The kind of dose where all you can do is lay on the ground till you come down enough to move your arms and legs again.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: dwpineal]
#14628993 - 06/17/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lets give this guy a medal, this is exactly the kind of publicity that we need!
Psilocybin mushrooms will be legal within ten years for sure.
As soon as people understand that it is the war on drugs causing problems, not them drugs themselves, they will legalize at least natural drugs like marijuana and mushrooms.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: dwpineal]
#14636390 - 06/19/11 04:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Surely there won't be any published statistics saying that the percentage rate of murders done by coffee drinkers or twinkies-eaters are way higher than that among psilocybin- or weed-users.
"Both the killer and his victims were reported to have consumed large amounts of strong coffee and hilarious amounts of donuts prior to the killings. These facts have lead to a discussion about the legality of said stimulants."
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Humility]
#14637265 - 06/19/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Last time I was on mushrooms, I toyed with the idea of shooting myself to make a bad trip stop. It wasn't depression-fueled or anything like that, I just got tired of tripping and wanted it to stop. It was enough to put me off mushrooms for good.
These things happen, but could probably be prevented. This guy didn't have a tripsitter and neither did I. Trip safe kids, and remember: you can't turn your back on a drug.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: guywiththegun]
#14641710 - 06/20/11 08:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kid had to of had a fucked up mind to begin with and the shrooms just brought it out.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Misto]
#14641741 - 06/20/11 08:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sounds like he plotted this out, get the intended victims to a gathering, dose them on psilocybes and then murder them and claim no recollection.
Its going to be hard for the prosecution to prove but I can almost guarantee you that this fucktard is a methodical killer.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Misto]
#14641885 - 06/20/11 09:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Misto said: Kid had to of had a fucked up mind to begin with and the shrooms just brought it out.
Not necessarily. Trip enough and eventually you'll go to your dark place. I think it's happened to everyone I know who has experienced mushrooms more than a few times.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: dwpineal]
#16182508 - 05/04/12 04:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some years ago, I used to provide shrooms to the people, and they almost hated me because I made them recite the safety rules before handing them the product.
"Do not trip in public places." "Do not mix any other substances with shrooms." "Do not trip in a place you can jump down unless you have a sitter." "Do not keep any sharp objects around." "Do not play with fire no matter what."
I also would not "give" more than 3 grams to anyone who had not tripped before.
I may seem like a paranoid person but psychedelics aren't toys to be played with, better safe than sorry.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Xeonen]
#16182533 - 05/04/12 04:50 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Or, just don't give psychedelics out to retarded people.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: John Nada]
#16182553 - 05/04/12 04:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's a good saying and yes, I stayed away from those kind; still informing and reinforming people helped me on the long run. Bad trips would happen but no accidents whatsoever.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: dwpineal]
#16182938 - 05/04/12 06:41 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is the kind of shit that makes me extremely hesitant to give people psychedelics.
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Freedom]
#16183199 - 05/04/12 07:45 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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^ Really? That's a little hyperbolic don't ya think? How often does this happen proportionately?
Very, extremely rarely is the answer.
People are responsible for their own decisions. I've been arrested and hospitalized against my will for several days following a trip that went unexpectedly.
It's part of the learning experience, making mistakes.
That said, harming other people, even while intoxicated, is unacceptable. If you might lose your shit on shrooms you prolly shouldn't have a loaded gun around.
AGain, I can't think of TOO MANY good reasons to have a loaded firearm lying around while tripping, especially while tripping with multiple people.
Guns are a LOT of fun and shooting them is great but they can kill in an instant and that only requires an action that seems so harmless - a simple movement of one finger less than an inch.
That's TOO close to the razors edge (for me anyway) while tripping given that many psychedelics can distort one's perception of reality more strongly than most other substances we know (deleriants prolly win out)>
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Humility]
#16183274 - 05/04/12 08:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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you're probably right,
fuck I brought someone a bottle of whiskey once to his cabin in the woods and half way through the bottle he started shooting the walls up...
Edited by Freedom (05/04/12 08:03 PM)
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Re: Solano man to stand trial in murders of 2 friends [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16190577 - 05/06/12 02:12 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: Lets give this guy a medal, this is exactly the kind of publicity that we need!
Psilocybin mushrooms will be legal within ten years for sure.
As soon as people understand that it is the war on drugs causing problems, not them drugs themselves, they will legalize at least natural drugs like marijuana and mushrooms.
People have realized the war on drugs is a failure.....around 3-5 years ago...
Also, why is mushrooms a factor in this murder? Why did they even feel the need to include it? Yes, he consumed them, but he still had the conscious ability to realize his actions.
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