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OfflinePileusSonofGalt
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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14619083 - 06/15/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Even after the treaties had been signed Indians would routinely hunt on land not specified in said treaty, that is an act of aggression. What happened with the Indians was completely handled the wrong way, but they did not own the land, they simply used all the land they wanted. Most tribes were nomadic, and the ones whom did stay settled did not claim to own the land, simply that they lived there. And closed, how can you take something that they themselves did not own? If you say these are not my mushroom supplies and trays, when I take them can you stop me? No, because they are not yours.





well, using your logic, Canada could claim Glacier National Park. it doesn't belong to anyone.




Your right they could, have you not heard about the nations going to the areas in the Arctic circle in recent years and claiming land that no one else has?

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14619117 - 06/15/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dood, any thing and every thing i say u will just disagree with, with no proof what so ever. u may be the first user i put on ignore.



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i am debating, and i am finding something else to do. and he has produced no evidence for his views regarding this manor, and simply dismisses the evidence i have provided. that is not debating, it's arguing.





That's all it ever is, but ill be damned if you're ever wrong you'll be damn sure they'll have mountains of evidence to use against you.  Until that point though it is simply ignoring what you way and claiming your wrong.  Its humorous really:rofl:




If you go through all of the posts I have been debating with you, closed and falcon in, you will see that almost every question you folks have asked of me, or statements you have made I have responded to, and have given my case and reasoning behind it. You folks on the other hand respond with, your stupid, and asshole, you do not know what you are talking about, to the vast majority of questions asked of you. Not just from myself but others as well. Please consider this when making claims that others have ignored your questions, and not include me in this statement. If you do find questions that IO have not responded to bring them to my attention and I will address them as soon as possible. Until then, stop hating on those that have answered with statements with substance and evidence. Maybe you do not know how, if so, please ask. I am sure many here would be willing to help you and the others learn.

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: PileusSonofGalt]
    #14619150 - 06/15/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dood, any thing and every thing i say u will just disagree with, with no proof what so ever. u may be the first user i put on ignore.



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closed veil said:
i am debating, and i am finding something else to do. and he has produced no evidence for his views regarding this manor, and simply dismisses the evidence i have provided. that is not debating, it's arguing.





That's all it ever is, but ill be damned if you're ever wrong you'll be damn sure they'll have mountains of evidence to use against you.  Until that point though it is simply ignoring what you way and claiming your wrong.  Its humorous really:rofl:




If you go through all of the posts I have been debating with you, closed and falcon in, you will see that almost every question you folks have asked of me, or statements you have made I have responded to, and have given my case and reasoning behind it. You folks on the other hand respond with, your stupid, and asshole, you do not know what you are talking about, to the vast majority of questions asked of you. Not just from myself but others as well. Please consider this when making claims that others have ignored your questions, and not include me in this statement. If you do find questions that IO have not responded to bring them to my attention and I will address them as soon as possible. Until then, stop hating on those that have answered with statements with substance and evidence. Maybe you do not know how, if so, please ask. I am sure many here would be willing to help you and the others learn.



Get used to it.  Alligator skin is also helpful.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14620040 - 06/15/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dood, any thing and every thing i say u will just disagree with, with no proof what so ever. u may be the first user i put on ignore.



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closed veil said:
i am debating, and i am finding something else to do. and he has produced no evidence for his views regarding this manor, and simply dismisses the evidence i have provided. that is not debating, it's arguing.





That's all it ever is, but ill be damned if you're ever wrong you'll be damn sure they'll have mountains of evidence to use against you.  Until that point though it is simply ignoring what you way and claiming your wrong.  Its humorous really:rofl:




If you go through all of the posts I have been debating with you, closed and falcon in, you will see that almost every question you folks have asked of me, or statements you have made I have responded to, and have given my case and reasoning behind it. You folks on the other hand respond with, your stupid, and asshole, you do not know what you are talking about, to the vast majority of questions asked of you. Not just from myself but others as well. Please consider this when making claims that others have ignored your questions, and not include me in this statement. If you do find questions that IO have not responded to bring them to my attention and I will address them as soon as possible. Until then, stop hating on those that have answered with statements with substance and evidence. Maybe you do not know how, if so, please ask. I am sure many here would be willing to help you and the others learn.



Get used to it.  Alligator skin is also helpful.




Thanks Zappa, but I am used to it. I have been getting flack for my views since I was in middle school. I am and have been used to this type of cowardice since around that time. The first debate I remember this happening in was with my philosophy teacher in high school over the use of deadly force upon civilians whom support a military waged in combat against us. She thought it was immoral and when I argued the fact that it was not only just, but necessary she not only refused to answer but had me removed from the class permanently. Oh well, no alligator skin needed, unless it is on my cowboy boots.

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: PileusSonofGalt]
    #14620448 - 06/16/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

All lies.  Just a whole bunch of bullshit to try and seem credible.

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14620887 - 06/16/11 02:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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All lies.  Just a whole bunch of bullshit to try and seem credible.




I know, I know, I should not lie about this, you know because you are a physcic, what was I thinking trying to pull one over on you ShroomyD'oh. Can you pleae remind me of what happened? I seem to forget being cslled to the principal soffice and told I had to pick a new elective class. What did I really do again? But since it is a lie, please debate the fact that when a country attacks us that we should not wage war against the citizens of said nation if they are supporting the people killing our citizens. I forgot I only started believing in indivdual rights yesterday.

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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: PileusSonofGalt]
    #14621492 - 06/16/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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please debate the fact that when a country attacks us that we should not wage war against the citizens of said nation if they are supporting the people killing our citizens.



Interesting - that was Osama Bin Laden's argument.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #14621561 - 06/16/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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PileusSonofGalt said:
please debate the fact that when a country attacks us that we should not wage war against the citizens of said nation if they are supporting the people killing our citizens.



Interesting - that was Osama Bin Laden's argument.





Maybe this just points out the obvious in human nature and the nature of the world. We are all trying to expand in some way and resist others who would expand into us. There are no good guys. There is just what is.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14628959 - 06/17/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

again zappa, i was not addressing u. i quoted another user, that means i was addressing him. i provided an answer to his question not yours. and you have not backed up any of your claims and simply dismiss everything i post, with no evidence what so ever, only your personal beliefs. you are arguing. i don't like to argue, nothing ever gets done. if u wish to back up your statements with any amount of historical facts, we can debate. but there are far too many bad vibes in this room as a whole, if u wish to argue, u can do it with someone else.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14629074 - 06/17/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

bu bye:satansmoking:


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: Icelander]
    #14629347 - 06/17/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so your saying no-one has an honest debate, in this forum, u all just fight and argue? that is why so many ppl don't get involved in politics.:thumbdown:


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: PileusSonofGalt]
    #14629369 - 06/17/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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closed veil said:
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PileusSonofGalt said:
Even after the treaties had been signed Indians would routinely hunt on land not specified in said treaty, that is an act of aggression. What happened with the Indians was completely handled the wrong way, but they did not own the land, they simply used all the land they wanted. Most tribes were nomadic, and the ones whom did stay settled did not claim to own the land, simply that they lived there. And closed, how can you take something that they themselves did not own? If you say these are not my mushroom supplies and trays, when I take them can you stop me? No, because they are not yours.





well, using your logic, Canada could claim Glacier National Park. it doesn't belong to anyone.




Your right they could, have you not heard about the nations going to the areas in the Arctic circle in recent years and claiming land that no one else has?





dood, a national park is land owned by the gov't, why are u bringing up land not owned by any nation in the arctic circle. :rolleyes:

u con't to change the subject every time someone makes a point that your arguement is flawed. :urreallydumb:


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: PileusSonofGalt]
    #14629448 - 06/17/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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PileusSonofGalt said:.... We need to be able to deploy anywhere within hours because many countries want to destroy us because we are "free"





yep we're free.








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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14629772 - 06/17/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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so your saying no-one has an honest debate, in this forum, u all just fight and argue? that is why so many ppl don't get involved in politics.:thumbdown:





We're did I say any of that?:confused:


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: Icelander]
    #14631847 - 06/18/11 02:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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bu bye:satansmoking:




i guess i just misunderstood you.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14633405 - 06/18/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think if you look at my last response in the economy thread, it'll pretty much sum up the opinion I've had the entire time


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: imachavel]
    #14633425 - 06/18/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i don't think i'm in that thread, i was talking about the two thread i'm in, in this room


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14633449 - 06/18/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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PileusSonofGalt said:.... We need to be able to deploy anywhere within hours because many countries want to destroy us because we are "free"





yep we're free.










You'd be a lot worse off if there were no cops.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14633533 - 06/18/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i'm not arguing that in anyway, i just find they way people of authority free like they have the freedom to take away our rights on their whim very disturbing.

getting tased is fucked up enough, but to get tased when your not resisting, that is insane!

i've seen it happen in person twice, once the kid was tripping and not resisting, the other time the guy was drunk and not resisting.

you've talked to people who are drunk and tripping right? sure it can be frustrating, but for a cop to tase someone because he's getting frustrated should be highly illegal, like going to prison for many years illegal.


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Re: Please let the Bush tax cuts expire. [Re: broken]
    #14633628 - 06/18/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Some people are assholes.  Duh.  Is there anything in those videos that speak to a systemic problem?  No.  Nor did they have anything at all to do with the post you ostensibly responded to.  Name another country that is more free.  Regarding speech the Shroomery is less free than the US.


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