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Offlinegearmaster
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san pedro.... my experience
    #14607383 - 06/13/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ive been doing san pedro for years now but have stuck with what I believe the simplest method is...

I do not de-spine it, or peel the skin off...

I simply cut it in half, I cut off the outer layer cutting each section between the white core and the green cuticle tissue ( as close is I can, I just make sure not leave green on the core.

Toss the core.

then cut the strips remaining into small pieces.

boil these for 6-7 hours, adding water every time it gets low.

then filter the whole thing by pouring it through a cotton shirt into another container. leaving the pieces in the shirt.

When the shirt and pieces cool enough to touch, I twist the top and ring every bit of juice out of the pieces into the liquid.

Then boil down all liquid to a manageable amount.

drink and trip balls for 12 hours or so.... I usually do 2 feet per dose. This will give a complete body buzz, body temp irregularities, visuals (wood grain flows, breathing walls, color spills), color enhancements etc....  sex is fantastic but can almost produce sensory overload...

I see all these long procedures and freezing and thawing.... to me there is no way that is easier or could produce any difference in your trip.... I could be wrong.... but I tell you last saturday couldn't have been any better. Does anyone dispute this? if so I would love to know why.... I always want to maximize the experience.


MY ISSUE: got some bridgesii heading this way... never done this one before so I am not sure how it compares to san pedro as far as the trip sensation or the actual duration. I would like to gelcap it for my girl since she only held Saturdays dose down for about 45 seconds before losing everything she had eaten all day, lol. she actually still had a tripping sensation, but it was probably in her best interest she puked it because my dose hammered me... and Im 265lbs, shes 110.

Part of me thinks you SHOULD have to stomach drinking it as the price for admission. BUT....there is no way shell EVER drink that again, can anyone tell me a comparison between capping and drinking regarding the actual trip?

and does anyone know if the bridgesii varies greatly from the san pedro... I should get 4 feet of bridge tomorrow or so... and I'm thinking of taking the whole 4 feet, but would like to know if its stronger or weaker than the san pedro counter part.... I heard bridge may be a bit stronger....


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: gearmaster]
    #14610870 - 06/14/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Bridgesii is considered the strongest of the Trichocereus family, in part because it supposedly contains several MAOI compounds. If two feet of Pachanoi takes you to the edge, then two feet of Bridgesii will push you over that edge. I would certainly not recommend over two feet of this cactus for most participants.

All cacti have great variance, however I believe a general ratio for these two guides would be; 12x4" Bridgesii = 18-20x4" Pachanoi.

As per the Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor (MAOI), The concentration is considered to low to cause severe reactions to foods containing tyramines, but as a general rule of safety & as a potentiator to the experience it's recommended by myself, as well as the traditional healers, that a person fast for 12 hours prior to ingestion, and for several additional hours afterwards.

There's a lot to be said about set & setting, particularly in the mind, but I will trust you have a good head on those shoulders...


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: Harvest Wind]
    #14610918 - 06/14/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I did achuma (bridgesii) for the first time last saturday, cooked about 22 inches (1-2 wide) for 10 hours. Was only able to consume about 2/3 of it before nearly puking it up. Had the most intense crippling nausea for an hour and started tripping about 30 min after my first gulp. Ended up being about 15 hrs. I definitely went close to the edge, it was quite overwhelming at the peak, I couldn't will myself to move and was quite concerned I would either piss myself or puke on myself. My eniter vision was overwhelmed with colors and intense fractals, I couldn't look at the sky because it hurt my eyes it was so intense, there was a good portion I where I wasn't sure if my eyes were closed or open.

It was however the best experience of my entire life, and I want to go back soo badly. But I am not doing the tea again, that shit is effin nasty, I will puke before that gets to my mouth next time, so I'll be drying it to a resin next time.

I recommend. This is strong.

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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: Harvest Wind]
    #14610922 - 06/14/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

my last bridgesii session was with about 8 in. and it was a very nice experience.

I'm not sure how much you have to worry about the moais that are presumed to be there (sahlid evidence right?).

I ate normally the day before and lightly the morning of and about 6 hours in I got a wicked headache for about 20 mins. but took some headache meds and it was gone. That's as close to any adverse reaction to that I can imagine but it could have been that i was a little dehydrated.

Couldn't hurt to eat well for a few days but all the fasting and maoi diet doesn't seem necessary.

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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: gearmaster]
    #14611682 - 06/14/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks a lot for the responses... I am certainly anxious to jump on this ride... cactus showed up today... I feel certain I could handle more than two feet of pedro, but I will stick to just two feet of bridge---

Im going to try something a bit different tho with preparation... I will condense liquid exactly as before to about 12-15 oz then split in half.... consume the first half as normal

with the second half I will go for my first time capping it up... then I can compare effects of equal doses.... anyone happen to know how long this will stay active and potent after made?


let me ask a side question too, for the shroomers....

I started taking cactus about 10 years ago or so... because I couldn't handle mushrooms... i know they were hydroponic and I know i took twice what i was supposed to but had an AWFUL TERRIFYING experience.... tried again and the trip ended with UNBELIEVABLE depression for hours and hours.... so Ive never tried them again... heard about san pedro and was hooked to the earthy natural connection you feel, with controllable and comfortable visuals....

that being said.. these additional alkaloids in bridge wont simulate that emotional reactions that shrooms did will they....??? my mind is connecting MAOI's with mood- this could be wrong.... but i NEVER want to feel like i did on shrooms again...

as far as ambience and surroundings, thats nothing to worry about... I learned that lesson with those hydro shrooms... lol to say the least.... but Ive always been able to function in any environment on pedro... I was thinking campin for the bridge... or i can stay at my pad... suggestions?

thanks again for the responses


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: gearmaster] * 1
    #14611885 - 06/14/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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gearmaster said:
because I couldn't handle mushrooms (...) i know they were hydroponic (...) I learned that lesson with those hydro shrooms (...)




:lolwut:

Did your dealer tell you they were "hydroponic"? :scumbagsteve:


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: Remix]
    #14612532 - 06/14/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Dude I get depression too on shrooms, I seriously considered suicide on shrooms once. Zero negative thoughts on cactus.

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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #14612560 - 06/14/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe you guys are just dosing a little too high with mushrooms?

Because I feel like they are very smooth, benign, and generally positive in their effects. Only when I was tripping very hard have I ever had anything resembling a bad experience with mushrooms. Since I've learned what the right dose is for me it doesn't happen anymore.

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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: gearmaster] * 1
    #14612579 - 06/14/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldn't go for two feet of bridgesii for the first time.  I know you have extensive experience with San Pedro, but bridgesii is so much stronger.  If anything, try fifteen inches first and then next time get heroic.

Bridgesii feels the way San Pedro should feel.


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: joemolloy]
    #14613248 - 06/14/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Bridgesii feels the way San Pedro should feel.





thats exactly what I want... but I strive on heroics.... 2' is happening... no reason I shouldnt be able to tolerate that... if i cant handle it, I have some xanax to serve as the "off switch"

remix... i said that about the shrooms because it was at least 8 years ago-- Im from NC so most people pick them- I bought these from a trusted friend-- if i had said I freaked out, i could see getting bombarded with "what were they" type of questions... that I cant answer-- ive seen picked shrooms from cow shit and these were certainly not that.... his bud had em in a fish tank... they warned me to only eat an 1/8 but heroics got the better of me- locked myself in my car in 15 degree weather in another state (rugby match) it was not good-- and the WORST part--- imagin riding the worst trip you can fathom, your in another state, cant drive your own car, then at 2:45 when all the bars let out.... 15 drunken ruggers try to beat their way into my car to escape the cold- NO ONE ENTERED lmfao--- one rookie slept in a trash can he rolled up next to my blazer so i wouldnt leave him..... horrible night.... taught me to always be somewhere comfortable and never end up alone.... but tried same shit again... didnt freak until it was over... and just wanted to apologize for being alive.... mushrooms werent my thing.... cactus however....

BRING IT!!!


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: gearmaster]
    #14613270 - 06/14/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

and ps: i definitely think everyone is emotionally tolerant to different substances.... for instance the white girl never messed with my emotional state at all, but my boy described his come down on white the exact same way my come down on shrooms was....

id try it again, but only because i know other meds to shut it down.... i didnt do that the first two times....

but there really is no reason, when every single time i do cactus i asked myself why im not on that every single day.... i cant imagine ANYTHING topping cactus....


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: gearmaster]
    #14613655 - 06/14/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like I need to try some cactus:grin:

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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: bRaInMeLtErS]
    #14616125 - 06/15/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if anything mushrooms make me feel less depressed in the hours and days after the trip.


Cactus sure is a lot easier on the nerves in lower doses but it isn't a pleasure cruise by any means in comparison to shrooms. In the right dose level it can rip you away, descending down endless tunnels made of rows of jagged, curved teeth and flesh.


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: gearmaster]
    #14616165 - 06/15/11 07:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Remember that book that that famous guy Aldous Huxley wrote, "Heaven and Hell"?

Tread carefully... achuma can be a blast or a beast. Most importantly, respect the cactus and you'll be fine.


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: floatingwater]
    #14616254 - 06/15/11 08:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Remember that book that that famous guy Aldous Huxley wrote, "Heaven and Hell"?

Tread carefully... achuma can be a blast or a beast. Most importantly, respect the cactus and you'll be fine.




Wasn't that book written about LSD?

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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: Harvest Wind]
    #14616265 - 06/15/11 08:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Bridgesii is considered the strongest of the Trichocereus family, in part because it supposedly contains several MAOI compounds. If two feet of Pachanoi takes you to the edge, then two feet of Bridgesii will push you over that edge. I would certainly not recommend over two feet of this cactus for most participants.

All cacti have great variance, however I believe a general ratio for these two guides would be; 12x4" Bridgesii = 18-20x4" Pachanoi.

As per the Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor (MAOI), The concentration is considered to low to cause severe reactions to foods containing tyramines, but as a general rule of safety & as a potentiator to the experience it's recommended by myself, as well as the traditional healers, that a person fast for 12 hours prior to ingestion, and for several additional hours afterwards.

There's a lot to be said about set & setting, particularly in the mind, but I will trust you have a good head on those shoulders...




i just want to clarify this, so despite the MAOI's present in Bridgessii, it is not nearly enough to worry about when mixing with foods?
i just want to verify because i am only experienced with Pedro

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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: Scraps]
    #14617336 - 06/15/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've never had any stomach problems on pedro.... the least i have ever done is 18"--- 24" last saturday and that was my first time in probably 6-7 years.... forgot how good it was, so I got my 4' of bridge yesterday....


so I will tell you the exact difference between the two with exact same preparation and dosing....4' will yield 2 doses.... and I just boil and reduce for 7 hours, wring out remainder and drink the god awful shit---

will definitely update this post after saturday.... im thinking of hitting genie springs for the weekend- a nearby springs system in high springs florida... ill prep friday night ingest sat morning and head that way for a night there with my chick...


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: gearmaster]
    #14618637 - 06/15/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Cool.  Enjoy yourself and definitely post to tell us your observations of the difference.


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: Connoisseur]
    #14619362 - 06/15/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

floatingwater said:
Remember that book that that famous guy Aldous Huxley wrote, "Heaven and Hell"?

Tread carefully... achuma can be a blast or a beast. Most importantly, respect the cactus and you'll be fine.




Wasn't that book written about LSD?




Nope. Definitely about mescaline. As was The Doors of Perception


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Re: san pedro.... my experience [Re: JonnyBtreed]
    #14619584 - 06/15/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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JonnyBtreed said:
Quote:

Connoisseur said:
Quote:

floatingwater said:
Remember that book that that famous guy Aldous Huxley wrote, "Heaven and Hell"?

Tread carefully... achuma can be a blast or a beast. Most importantly, respect the cactus and you'll be fine.




Wasn't that book written about LSD?




Nope. Definitely about mescaline. As was The Doors of Perception







I see, well i am obviously aware the doors was about mesc but i thought that heaven and hell was about the psychedelic experience when induced by LSD psilocybin and mescaline in general.

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