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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14613168 - 06/14/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I have to back up my statement that America isn't freedom and equality? Seriously?  :rofl2:

And I have been to third world countries.  Saying we are more free than some of them is not saying the same thing at all now is it?  You make my case for me with that statement.

Btw can you freely take your shrooms at police headquarters.  Is that freedom?  Do you really think that justice is dispensed equally in our legal system?

Yeah it's bunk all right. Had you made a more realistic statement...




Are you kidding me?  What a horrible argument :facepalm:

What do you expect with your idea of "freedom?"  Its not ever going to be completely and totally free, anywhere on our planet.  In your idea of a free nation would you be free to murder someone if you wish?  Rob a bank cause you're low on money?

I think justice is dispensed more equally in our country than most, that's for sure.  Most cases that are opened in other countries never even make it to court, its just a waste of time to even start one.  Yet here, while it may take some time, most if not all cases go through the court system as it pursues the idea of justice this nation was founded on.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14613277 - 06/14/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shrooomtastic said:
Anyone?





Just me then? :sad:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14613302 - 06/14/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What's horrible is you making a claim that you in no way can back up.  Saying we are more free than some other country is in no way the same as saying this country has full freedom and equality.  Do you really mean to tell all of us that the American justice system treats everyone equally no matter what?  OJ Simpson comes to mind.  Think some poor black kid that nobody knew would have gotten that kind of a trial?

  Most cases that are opened in other countries never even make it to court, its just a waste of time to even start one.

Prove this blanket statement please. Try England or  other European countries.
And it very well could be there are countries with more equality and freedoms in various areas than us.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14613612 - 06/14/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What's horrible is you making a claim that you in no way can back up.  Saying we are more free than some other country is in no way the same as saying this country has full freedom and equality.  Do you really mean to tell all of us that the American justice system treats everyone equally no matter what?  OJ Simpson comes to mind.  Think some poor black kid that nobody knew would have gotten that kind of a trial?

  Most cases that are opened in other countries never even make it to court, its just a waste of time to even start one.

Prove this blanket statement please. Try England or  other European countries.
And it very well could be there are countries with more equality and freedoms in various areas than us.




lol true, blanket statement.  What I meant was "most cases that are opened in other third world countries never even make it to court.  Such is the case in Nepal and India, and I know this from experience.

And again, I am not talking about "full" equality or "full" freedom, if such a thing even exists or could be defined.  I'm saying its all relative, that no country's system is perfect and probably never will be, and that America happens to not be just a little, but MUCH more equal and free than majority of the countries of our planet.  I'm not talking about England, France, or Australia...etc, but third world countries with very corrupt systems such as Ethiopia, Liberia, Nepal, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan...and so on and so forth.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14613842 - 06/14/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm saying its all relative, that no country's system is perfect and probably never will be, and that America happens to not be just a little, but MUCH more equal and free than majority of the countries of our planet.

I have no problems with this statement as imo it's realistic. :lol:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14613960 - 06/14/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm saying its all relative, that no country's system is perfect and probably never will be, and that America happens to not be just a little, but MUCH more equal and free than majority of the countries of our planet.

I have no problems with this statement as imo it's realistic. :lol:




super, we agree on something  :mrburns:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14614072 - 06/14/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

excellent


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14614107 - 06/14/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have a feeling that when/if we find an alien species to beat up, we will be alot more peacefull to eachother.

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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14614537 - 06/14/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I mean I hope the whole human race goes extinct.  Just think, no more human suffering.





... but, no more chocolate donuts. :confused:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Rahz]
    #14614552 - 06/14/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's why I want a couple days notice.  I'll eat so fucking many that I'll be praying to die.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14614978 - 06/14/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What happened to a nice cucumber and tofu salad?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14615937 - 06/15/11 06:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Try to stay away from soy.  Estorgenic effects not good for old men like us.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14616048 - 06/15/11 07:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Please leave my man-boobs out of this!


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14616733 - 06/15/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Do you prefer to wear a  Bro or the Manzier?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14617264 - 06/15/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
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BlueCoyote said:
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Icelander said:
I mean I hope the whole human race goes extinct.  Just think, no more human suffering.



I can't help but I am angry about the missed opportunity to make (/keep) this place a paradise [OP]...





I'm no longer angry now that I understand that it was never a possibility.



Our ancestors would have been able to keep this place a habitable and nice environment. Instead they fucked up everything and now it's hard to loose those habits.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14617354 - 06/15/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Our ancestors raised children who didn't.  Don't think for  a minute nurture didn't have anything to do with the present situation.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14617470 - 06/15/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Even those generations before became more and more capable of a choice, and I talk only for about 100 years ago...
They were incapable because they always struggled with their own shit and lost the grand connections to nature out of sight.
I will not forgive them :hellfire:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14617710 - 06/15/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't either.  Neither do I ultimately blame them.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14618036 - 06/15/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yah, maybe the cockroaches will do better :thumbup:

The ancient song of the OP might hall through their caves.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14618043 - 06/15/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Our ancestors would have been able to keep this place a habitable and nice environment. Instead they fucked up everything and now it's hard to loose(sic) those habits.




Various primitive peoples around the world used (and some still do) poison as a fishing method. Very eco-friendly.


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