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Offlineprototypexx
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How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii)
    #14611940 - 06/14/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hi! I'm new here. I was hoping to get some feedback on my first cactus extraction. I'm using two 12'' bridgesii.

A little prep info: I sliced the cacti into stars. I put them into a dehydrator for a while until they were hard and crispy. When I was taking them out, I realized it was too difficult to get rid of the cores at that point. (Since this is an extraction, it's OK... right?)

...So I toss the cacti chips in the blender and pulverize. It turns out there was still some moisture in them, not dry dust like I thought I'd get. The texture/consistency was similar to baby food. In goes 25g of hydrated lime, and ~300ml of water... followed by 300ml of orange oil. I blend nicely until I end up with a puree.

Here's a picture of where I'm at. How does it look?


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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14612182 - 06/14/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Is the D-limonene in there?  It doesn't look it.



You should have just made a tea.  I've done the D-limonene extraction a bunch of times before I learned my lesson.  Tea is the best, Everclear is a close second, A/B and D-Limo are both varying degrees of shitty disappointment even at high doses.  If you like your Pepsi in Diet, you'll like your mescaline in Diet too as that's what you'll get with your current extraction.  Whatever trip you get from this extraction, know that if you simply tea'd up the raw plant material your trip would be much better.

Oh, just so D-limo and A/B lovers don't get upset, perhaps my body chemistry is different than yours.  Or maybe its the other alkaloids that make tea so much better, but damn, to waste bridgesii on D-limo brings a tear to my eye.


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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: joemolloy]
    #14612884 - 06/14/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Edited by BlindBat (04/29/12 02:31 PM)

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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14613675 - 06/14/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I should have clarified, I want to end up with the full-spectrum brown stuff after this extraction, the purification to pure mesc is just an extra step. With the tea, it seems a little wasteful to me because most of the guides usually require at least 12in for one solid trip, while extractions seem to yield more content somehow, and they're easier going down.

...So my extraction looks wrong? I mixed in the d-limonene, calcium hydroxide and water... it didn't become orange, just stayed Shrek green. I strained all of the cacti to squeeze the juice out after several hours. Mixed in the vinegar and put it in the gravy separator. Then I had to leave for a little while so I hope i return to some vinegar at the bottom.

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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14613707 - 06/14/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Usually you should be able to see the d-limonene and easily siphon it off or separate it from the cactus/calcium hydroxide mixture.  Yours looks like a green milk shake.  I remember that the water to cactus to calcium hydroxide ratio was unforgiving if you didn't get it right.

I'd put all that shit in a jar and then add more d-limo and see if the d-limo is at the top.


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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14615476 - 06/15/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals/63245-69ron-s-d-limonene-san-pedro-extraction-w-h2co3.html

Just found that thread, and I think it's what I'm looking for to fix these "problems"...

But back to the current batch - Yeah, I think you're right, I should have just added some more d-limo. But, at the same time, I feel like I should have gone the extra mile(s) to really powderize and dry the initial cactus. Right now I have the green milk shake with some vinegar settling at the bottom of the gravy separator. It seems to have taken a long time to settle, and 25mL of vinegar is not enough to come out of the spout properly. I know more vinegar = longer evap, but I went ahead and added another 25mL. I suppose I'll find out if anything came of this.

I've got one more extra bridgsii chopped in the freezer though, so if all fails I can try again.

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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14616914 - 06/15/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I personally think the cacti/CaOH/h2o mixture was too wet and sloppy when the d-limo was added and it didn't separate good or at all really. When you separated all the d-limo from the cacti mix, was it just d-limo or was there some water in the bottom? And how much ml of d-limo got squeezed out? You put in 300ml...

The vinegar should separate and sink to the bottom of the d-limo which is slightly stirred and let re-separate and siphoned out the bottom. If the basification step worked, and you got 250ml-300ml separated d-limo then it should work. But idk shit bout extracting cacti or the ratios. When i tried the lime tek on 48g of MHRB i got crap yields but that don't mean I won't try it again.

Where'd you get your d-limo? It's too damn expensive.


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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14618238 - 06/15/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When I separated it, it wasn't clear at all. It was like a green milkshake. I couldn't see any water in it for that reason. I forgot how much got squeezed out, it was in the neighborhood of 400ml. So there was alot of water in there. Is that supposed to happen? I'm guessing not now... What should I do with what's in the gravy separator?

I'm guessing at one stage I should have removed the water? but when?

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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14620061 - 06/15/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well idk about cacti extractions but it sounds like you should check on the green d-limo/vinegar in the gravy seperator and see if any vinegar is seperatable. If there was any water in the seperated "green milkshake" d-limo then it should just combine with the vinegar and all sink to the bottom but there is probably CaOH impurities in the water. Are you sure you got just the d-limo seperated and not cacti matter/water? Shouldn't the seperated d-limo have a liquidy green texture not "green milkshake" texture? I just might have to try a cacti extraction soon.

I know that with MHRB you get it to a pasty consistency with the lime where no water comes along at all when poured off...just the d-limo.


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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14621975 - 06/16/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I probably have alot of water in it. I just got the cactus matter and strained it out, resulting in the milkshake. I didn't see a clear layer of d-limo that I could siphon/pour off...

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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14622111 - 06/16/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ya sounds like you used too much water in the basifying stage..idk about cacti but with MHRB it shouldnt be too wet. more a pasty consistency where the d-limo seperates from the hard pastey cacti/CaOH. It sounds like all the water and d-limo is just kinda combined with the green milkshake consistency and idk what to tell you...id just pour the "green milkshake" shit back into the main cacti matter bowl and let it all dry out...the water and the d-limo... and add new d-limo to the hard dried out cacti matter and re-seperate. that might work


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Re: How's my first d-limonene extract looking thus far? (Bridgesii) [Re: prototypexx]
    #14629140 - 06/17/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well I went back today to see it had evaporated. I yielded what seems a good deal of brown substance with green-ish yellow crust around it. After scraping away as much crust as possible, I used a razor to get all the brown substance off the plate. It was sticky, and after I scraped it all up, powdery. I weighed out 2.4g of the stuff. Wow!

I suspected it might be bunk because of the messed up procedures, however SWIM decided to have 300mg to judge it. We smoked some cannabis around +30m, and continued until +60m. SWIM mentioned he feels some body effects. At +1h30m, SWIM mentioned seeing some tell-tale signs of good mesc. This was on an empty stomach and with the aid of cannabis, mind you. I had to leave at that point, I'll follow up with him later.

But from what it seems I had a great yield :grin:



...phew! that was a hell of a dream I had. Thanks for listening :grin:

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