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fuck i might be doing time for "theft"
    #14613640 - 06/14/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ohhh boy, ive been outta of jail and legal bullshit for the last 5-6 years. its been great. and now out of left field im dealing with a lunatic who feels like ive taken serious advantage of her and is talking about pressing charges.

heres what happened.... okay first off im a heroin addict and so is my close frined. or i guess he WAS my close friend. anyway, a couple of times we went down to the pawn shop together. he had been in trouble with his mother before for pawning her shit. she and him went down to a certain pawn shop and she screamed and yelled about getting her shit back... because her son is a thief and a junkie or whatever. so as a result he had become blacklisted from that certain pawn shop. we first went in there with dvd's and some tools. sometimes it was his shit and sometimes it was mine.none of which looked like it was stolen and to my knowledge it wasnt. okay thats not a big deal, the movies or whathaveu. but anyway, after a while we lost touch and then he called me again talking about how he would be going to rehab soon and one of his biggest regrets the last time he went to rehab was that he couldnt get loaded the night before as a way to "say goodbye." so he calls me and says he needs a ride to the pawn shop, and that he would get me loaded as a thank u. he says hes going to rehab the next day. okay so i went to pick him up and we went to the pawn shop, he went in, did his thing and we did indeed get loaded. tho he didnt end up going to rehab the next day. a few days of this had transpired. tho anyway on 3 occasions, he begged me to go in with some jewelery he had. all rings. he told me that he didnt want to go in there again because he had been going for so many days straight. anyway, i pawned like 3 rings, on seperate occasions. i thought they were prob stolen but i figured he would own up to it if that day ever transpired where he was confronted by his mother.

anyway the bastard finally goes to rehab. the day before he left we pawned a ring and got loaded. tho the next day i find out that he puts a debt in my name with our mutual dealer. i told the dealer i didnt even kno about it and that as far as im concerned me and my "friend" are no longer cool. i managed to confrot him about it on the firt day he was in rehab, he bitched at first but he later appologized. that alone pissed me off, because u dont fuck over one of yer own. then 2 days later as im in a detox state, his fucking mother comes to my house and shes pissed. apparently he told his mother everything before he left and mentioned my name. she scoped out the pawn shops and got records of who pawned certain shit and my name was on a few of those things. shes acting like i stole from her directly and she called me every filthy word she could think of. she kept saying she was going to press charges. she said the only thng keeping me out of jail was a certain ring, for which i was lucky enough to recover. the other 2 im waiting to pick up soon.

the thing is, im going to get the 3 things she claimed to be most important to he back and also give her $500 for pain and suffering. tho the thing is shes fucking crazy. ligitimate nuts. she thought i was wearing a wire when we went to the pawn shop together to check out her rings. so to say the least im scared of this woman. i scared that even after i pay her back shell press charges. she says she has all this proff that i pawned all kinds of her shit and claimed that her house was wiped out. now the only records these place have of me with her shit is from the rings, because i didnt make a habit of going in and using my ID at these places. and the only other thing is from the DVD's but how can prove that those were her's? i mean really, does she hasd reciets from all of these? she says she has all this shit on me but im starting to think shes bluffing. the only thing is from the rings. and i intend on reinbursing her with htose rings and giving her money for pain and suffering. tho what do u think i should do in regard to this situtation and dealing with this woman? her fucking god aweful son is in rehab right now and shes acting like theres just now fucking way to get in touch with him. i feel like shes pissed off at her son and is taking it all out on me. im really scared about what shell do after i get her shit back to her. she is a crazy bitch and everyone one of her children has admitted this to me. are there any laws i can use to protect myself or does it sound like im fucked? im almost 70% sure there wont be any legal bullshit and when she gets her crap back shell drop it, but then again shes crazy and poor. im afraid shell try and blackmail me and my mom until she gets tired and i really dont want to play that game. i dont trust her one bit. what if she says she didnt get her shit back and milks this from us? well likely drop over $1500 in making it right with this woman. but what if she feels that isnt enough? she was talking about how i should try and reclaim the shit her son took and pawned in his name,but how the fucvk can i do that?

any advice? i knew my friend had stolen the rings. but i figured hed take the fall for it if anything happened. and now ive been dragged into this nightmare and i dont know what to do. please offer some advice as to what i should do because i really dont want to go back to jail. right now im staying clean for a while as a precaution.

anyone????

man i feel screwed.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14613677 - 06/14/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You pawned her stolen property (and you even had an idea it might be stolen) with your ID.  If she decides to press charges, guess what?  You're going to jail.  Now, if she tries to blackmail you with this knowledge, she is in the wrong.  If she has her stuff back she can either call the cops or not.  There's nothing really you can do about it at this point.  The only thing you could have done is not pawn the jewelry in the first place, junkie.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: LisonAlGaib] * 1
    #14614375 - 06/14/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quit the dope and get your life straight....

Whether you do the bit or not.


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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: fireshaman] * 1
    #14614722 - 06/14/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I like how op put "theft" in qoutations, like he's being framed or something.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14615979 - 06/15/11 06:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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man i feel screwed.




You brought it on yourself. Suck it up.


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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14615991 - 06/15/11 06:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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i find out that he puts a debt in my name with our mutual dealer.




What the fuck? What kind of dealer fronts dope in other peoples' names? Or at all?


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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: Doc_T]
    #14616093 - 06/15/11 07:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

What everyone else said.  Get off the smack.  If she does get you arrested you going to rehab before they arrest you would be a good sign to the judge that you are trying to get your act together. 


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i managed to confrot him about it on the firt day he was in rehab, he bitched at first but he later appologized. that alone pissed me off, because u dont fuck over one of yer own.





You ever heard the phrase "There's no honor among thieves"?  You and your "friend" are thieves and he fucked you over because that's the nature of thieves.  Stop being a thief.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: vandago]
    #14616135 - 06/15/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Personally I wouldn't give her any "pain and suffering" money. How were you to know it was stolen? Don't let yourself be roped into this shit. Just up and leave.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: user1837483975]
    #14616141 - 06/15/11 07:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

He's already roped in.


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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14616511 - 06/15/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i am roped in. ive been an addict for 2 years. though ive never stolen anything from anyone exce3pt for a few bucks for which ive paid back.

im starting to think i wont give her any pain and suffering money. if she does press charges ill just say i didnt know it was stolen and when i did find this out, id did everything in my power to get these items back to her. ill be dropping close to $1200 in making this right with this woman. though the thing that im getting relaxed about is this: first off if the items are reported stolen, then they are evidence in a court of law. she had reported them stolen to the pawn shop and when i tried to go in and retrieve them for her, they said that since they were reported stolen, i couldnt retrieve them until i went thru the hoops of the police process for such an offense. i told her this and she went down there and now i can pick up these items at the repsected times. so wouldnt this disregard their position as a styolen good? how can one claim something to be stolen when they get it back? and what business is going to sell a stolen item to someone, esp the "thief"??? my answer is likely none. the other shop didnt even have the ring reported stolen. so once all of these are returned to her, how can i be charged with something that wasnt reported stolen and was returned? i can plead ignorance to the fact that i knew it was stolen. and also its my first felonous offense so with the most i can be charged with is possesion of stolen property, my guess is the most i can be givben is probation or something light. there is no evidence that i broke an entry. there is no finger prints of mine on her personal property, in which i allegedly went into. if she drags me into a legal dispute ill testify against her son and with him being the main character in this situation, someone who has already been blacklisted from certain pawnshops for stealing from his mother, i bet shell drop the charges. it doesnt look like she wants her son to go to prison but he is the one who stole it and also the one with more stolen shit in his name at these pawn shops than me. for me, the only items that i "stole" (thats right its in quotes) are these 3 things for which i plan on returning. how can they charge me with anything once i right this wrong and this "stolen property" is sold back to the public and most specifically sold back to the "thief at hand"??

i cant imagine that holding up in court very well.

any perspective is appreciated. though knock it off with the "hey your a scum bag junkie" shit. im not proud of what ive become and it has reduced me to rock bottom. although i am doing everything in my power to get clean. this little scare has really set me straight and i am now disgusted with the drug that i allowed to ruin me. im getting my shit straight, so please stop with those type of replies. though if u cant control youself and u need to hate on me, go ahead, your nonsense and spite driven replies dont not affect me in any way, other than being annoying. i never said i was an angel in this ituation, i did indeed screw up. though im trying to do everything in my power to make this right again. and im looking at it from a legal perspective now for my own survival. i know a lot of u do drugs, wheter it pot or heroin doesnt really matter in the eyes of the law. and if u got busted for distrubution or possession, would u want someone to say "well your a scumbag and its time u paid the price, u fucking drug addict" ? no we all take risk with the drug using lifestyle and this post is in regard to protecting myself from inprisonment.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14616535 - 06/15/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Karma's a bitch, eh?

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: Doc_T]
    #14616549 - 06/15/11 09:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
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i find out that he puts a debt in my name with our mutual dealer.




What the fuck? What kind of dealer fronts dope in other peoples' names? Or at all?



yerah i was just as blown away as u. its maybe because we were together when the shit was bought. he was in the guys car and i was in my own. he knows us both and i guess he thought all was cool. though yeah ive never heard of such shit and i even told the guy i didnt know shit about that negotitation.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #14616945 - 06/15/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

No. Giving back the shit you stole/pawned doesn't make things "all better".  :rofl2:

Only a kiss from your mommy can do that.

WTF dude?


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Scumbag: But I'll give the money back!
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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14620279 - 06/15/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't admit that you knew he was banned from pawning... that kinda looks bad for you when you claim that you didn't know the rings were stolen...

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    #14622110 - 06/16/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I wouldn't admit that you knew he was banned from pawning... that kinda looks bad for you when you claim that you didn't know the rings were stolen...




Everything about the situation makes op look bad.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #14622146 - 06/16/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

OP makes the op look bad. OP is bad, IMO.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #14622268 - 06/16/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck that trifling ass bitch.  You didn't do anything illegal (depending on what those contract clauses state).


The MOST you did was receive stolen property unawares and I'm not even sure if that's a charge or not.

She needs to suck it the fuck up and acknowledge that she, time and again, provided a means to have her shit stolen by her junky ass son.



All you did was get the ring from him LEGITIMATELY.  You didn't steal SHIT.

You are AS GUILTY OF THEFT AS THE PAWN SHOP IS.




"Be smart, don't be a retard.
You gonna take advice from somebody that slapped Dee Barnes?"



I wouldn't give her shit.  You haven't committed a crime to my knowledge.


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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: Humility]
    #14622288 - 06/16/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Fuck that trifling ass bitch.  You didn't do anything illegal (depending on what those contract clauses state).


The MOST you did was receive stolen property unawares and I'm not even sure if that's a charge or not.

She needs to suck it the fuck up and acknowledge that she, time and again, provided a means to have her shit stolen by her junky ass son.



All you did was get the ring from him LEGITIMATELY.  You didn't steal SHIT.

You are AS GUILTY OF THEFT AS THE PAWN SHOP IS.




"Be smart, don't be a retard.
You gonna take advice from somebody that slapped Dee Barnes?"



I wouldn't give her shit.  You haven't committed a crime to my knowledge.



It can be proven that op at least had knowledge that the items had a high probability of being stolen, so yes that is a charge, a felony too.  The pawn shop assumes no liability because the one pawning the item does.  That's why you show ID at pawn shops.  Nope, this junkie's going to jail if the property owner decided to press charges.

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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #14622851 - 06/16/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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It can be proven that op at least had knowledge that the items had a high probability of being stolen




If the OP doesn't say anything, how could that possibly be proven?


Furthermore, what's a "high probability of being stolen"?

If a guy brings you some shit, you can't know for sure either way depending on the story he gives.


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Re: fuck i might be doing time for "theft" [Re: Humility]
    #14622972 - 06/16/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The rings can be proven to belong to the mother of one of his long time friends.  This is also not the first time this has happened between him and his friend regarding the mother's property being pawned (remember his friend is blackballed at local pawn shops).  With that in mind, no judge would believe any story op gives about "Oh I didn't know he stole those.  I thought those rings were his."

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